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« skrivet: 2019-10-04, 10:38 »
Hej!
Mer om släkten. Se bouppteckningar, AD Halmstad häradsrätt (N) BouReg:1 (1671-1849)
1762:22, 1786:25, 1813:34, 1816:19, 1816:20, 1817:54, 1832:59
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2019-10-03, 21:54 »
Hej !
Jag har Christen Mårtensson f 1730-08-19 Brandenborg Nr.1, Kvibille, gm Johanna Persdotter från Tollastorp Nr.1, Asige.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2019-01-08, 19:06 »
Hej !
Anders Larsson (1), Änkling Risarp och Anna Pehrsdotter(2), Pigan Hallagård
Vigda 25/10 1799 i Harplinge (Halland)
Källa: Harplinge CI:5 s.37
(1). Anders Larsson f.1761-10-01 Risarp Nr.1
Far Lars Anderson (3), Mor Pärnilla Nildr (4),
Källa: Harplinge CI:2 s.186
Lars Anderson, Tijarp och Pärnilla Nilsd:, Risarp
Vigda 7/6 1752 i Steninge o Harplinge (Halland)
Källa: Harplinge CI:2 s.389
(3). Lars Andersson f.Swarttalund, Tiarp Nr.1, Vapnö
Döpt 20/5 1730 Vapnö (Halland), Far Anders Anderson
Källa: Vapnö CI:1, s. 44
(4). Pernilla Nilsdotter, f.1732-10-25, Risarp Nr.1.
Född 25/10 1732 i Risarp, Harplinge (Halland)
Far Nels Nelson Källa: Harplinge CI:1, s.190
(2). Anna Persdotter f.1779-09-18, Hallagård Nr.1,
Far Per Pålsson (5), Mor Svenborg Persdr,(6). Källa: Harplinge CI:2 s.675
Per Påhlsson, Änkling Lockare Harplinge och Svenborg Persdotter, Pigan Gårdstorp
Vigda 1/1 1766 i Kvibille (Halland) Källa: Kvibille CI:2
(5). Per Pålsson f.1735-12-20 (beräknat från dödbok) Källstorp Nr.3, Holm socken, Halland
Man Pehr Pålsson från Hallagård (ålder: 72 år 2 mån 16 dag) Död 5/3 1808 i Harplinge
Källa: Harplinge CI:5 s.115
(6). Svenborg Persdotter f 1745-11-17 (beräknat från dödbok)
Enkan Swenborg Pehsdotter från Hallagård (ålder: 74 år 5 dag) Död 22/11 1819 i Harplinge
Källa: Harplinge CI:5 s.221
Holm = Holm socken, Beräknat = födelse bok saknas, beräknat från dödboken, Svenborg = ett flicknamn :-)
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2019-01-07, 12:29 »
Hej Mikael !
Anders Larsson f.1761-10-01 Risarp Nr.1, föräldrar Lars Andersson f.1730-05-20 Tiarp Nr.1, Vapnö och Pernilla Nilsdotter, f.1732-10-25, Risarp Nr.1.
Anna Persdotter f.1779-09-18, Hallagård Nr.1, föräldrar Per Pålsson f.1735-12-20 (beräknat) Källstorp Nr.3, Holm och Svenborg Persdotter f 1745-11-17 (beräknat)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2019-01-06, 19:30 »
Hej Mikael !
Pernillas dotter Helena gm Nils Johan Andersson, är medlem av Långarydssläkt, som du sa.
Pernillas son Anders Erlandsson gm Johanna Christina Nilsdotter. Hennes farmors mor Karin Svensdotter var syster till Per Segerlund (Svensson) f1747 Harplinge. Jag har ett träd på Ancestry om Segerlunder, också många DNA "matches" med levande ättlingar av släkten.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2019-01-06, 15:48 »
Hej !
Ja, jag har föräldrar Johannes Ferm och andra hustru Ingrid Persdotter. Han hade 5 full syskon och en halv bror. För mig kommer släktskapet genom hans syster Pernillas barn.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2018-11-27, 21:22 »
Hej !
Se Steninge Torp Petershus AI:1 Bild 157 sid 19,Bild 189 sid 51 och Bild 222 sid 47.
Anders Andersson f.1830, f.1830 och f. 1829. dvs f.1829-04-29, men 1830 i några hfl.
Se Harplinge CI:7 bild 56 sid 106. Anders f.1829-04-29 Risarp.
Far var Andreas Johansson mor Pernilla Andersdotter, g.1829-03-08 Harplinge.
Pernilla f.1807-02-23, Risarp, Harplinge, d.1832-02-07, Särdal, Harplinge.
Andreas f. 1798-01-06, Långaryd, d. 1842-03-22, Petershus, Steninge.
John
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« skrivet: 2018-02-23, 14:44 »
Hej !
De finns vid Nr.8 Front Street, South Ward, Tynemouth. Axel Carlsen 27, Thilda 36, båda från Sverige. Axel var "Seaman's Boarding House Keeper" . De finns också 21 till som bor där, mesta från Skandinavia. Men de hade inga barn, tyvärr.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2018-01-23, 10:42 »
Glad it worked. Nils Alfred f. Torpa, Kronobergs shown.  Good luck. John
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« skrivet: 2018-01-22, 11:15 »
Write your explanatory text in the square.
Then Click on the text under the square "Bifoga bild eller fil och se andra tillval"
"Choose File"
More than one object can be appended. It shows the allowed file types, maximum file size and total of allowed.
Then Posta.
John
p.s. Include the parishes for those you want information for, if at all possible. To find someone from just a name can be like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack.
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« skrivet: 2018-01-09, 21:50 »
I have always believed torp to be closest to croft, as mentioned above. The term being used for the rented cottage with just sufficient ground for subsistance farming found in the Scottish Highlands. Most English speakers with English roots will grasp the meaning of this. Cottage alone has too broad a meaning.
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« skrivet: 2017-05-01, 15:08 »
Hej !
Jag har Christen Pärson och Karins ? som Per/Peders far/mor, med Peder Larsson d.1701 som Christens far. Christen Pärson dog 1748-06-19, 81 år Storegård. Hallands Landbeskrivning 1729 har bara Peer Christensson No 3 Skintaby Lars Persons gård. Börtas far var en Bengt Svensson.
mvh
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« skrivet: 2017-05-01, 12:00 »
Hej!
Jag har hon f 1742-05-29 Storegård, d 1809-07-29 Österby Kullagård, enka ålder 68 år. Bengt Larsson dog 1793-02-12 Storegård. Dotter Gunilla f.1767-01-17 d. 1827-02-17, gm Bengt Larsson, Kullagård. Enligt Bouppteckning 1827-04-14 Harplinge, (N), Undantagsänkan Gunnill Bengtsdotter, Skintaby Wäster Kullagård, avl d 19/3.
Jag också har föräldrar som Peder Christensson och Börta Bengtsdotter. Dottrar som levde var Kerstin och Karin gm Lars Jönsson.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2017-02-16, 10:16 »
Hej !
Lite till....
Nilsson, Julius Bernhard
Född 16/3 1871 i Ledtorpet, Östra Karup (Halland) Döpt 21/3 1871
Far Nilsson, Sven Peter Inhyseshjonet, 36 år Ledtorpet
Mor Persdotter, Elna Fästequinnan, 34 år Ledtorpet
John
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« skrivet: 2017-02-15, 11:19 »
Hej !
I 1880 familjen finns i Huntly, Hjärnarp, Kristianstads
Nilsson, Sven Peter 1834 Far Stat dräng
Persdotter, Elna 1836 Våxtorp, Halland Mor
(Barn), Maria Lovisa 1866 Barn
(Barn), Julius Bernhard 1871 Östra Karup Barn
(Barn), Dina Sofia 1873 Båstad Barn
Från Hallands befolkning CD,
Nilsson, Sven Peter Inhyseshjon, 1834 Ledtorpet
Persdotter, Elna Enka, 1836 Ledtorpet
Vigda 10/4 1871 i Östra Karup (Halland)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2017-01-29, 14:49 »
Note that those registered with Ulrika Eleonora church in London could be living anywhere in England, the church did not have a parish in the normal meaning. But the record you have found may have an address, so you could already know that. I did not find the family in a limited search of the 1939 census
However Ancestry have 2 records which might be of interest. First that she left Gothenburg alone for London 12 jan 1935, also in Arvika landsförsamling B:9, as you know. And secondly she left Gothenburg again, this time with her husband and son for Bergen Norway 24 nov 1949.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2016-11-13, 14:08 »
Helena Hägg was Ingrid Helena Svensdotter Hägg, and was Stina Caisa's sister. So directly related.
Sorry, postcard translation a bit beyond me if someone else could have a go ?
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« skrivet: 2016-11-13, 11:44 »
Emma Augusta's father Anders Gustaf Petersson, mother Ingrid Helena Hägg. So all of the sons would be Andersson, daughters Andersdotter (at that time, the 1860s). The family names suggest a closeness. So more investigating to do.
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« skrivet: 2016-11-13, 11:03 »
As a first step, here is the family found in Fageräng Fagerhult , Kråkshult 1895-1905 AIIa:1 Page 57, living there from 1900.
Father Johansson, mother Andersdotter, whose name will probably be changed to Andersson in following registers. Father is a Torpare, a crofter, a small farmer. Daughter Selma. Father and daughter born Ökna parish, mother born Karlstorp parish. Postcards properly addressed to "Miss Selma Johansson at Fageräng,Kråkshult".
Frans Johan Johansson 14 Oct 1860
Emma Augusta Andersdotter 5 Nov 1861
Selma Augusta Emilia 5 Nov 1883
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« skrivet: 2016-11-12, 18:18 »
I am sure this will help him. But check his tree on Ancestry - he has some of this plus many photographs of Otto farming in Saskatchewan - very impressive !
Small point that I have not seen mentioned - Otto took the name of the family farm as his last name. This was not at all uncommon. I have an example with my oldest Swedish ancestor with a family name who incorporated part of the family farm name in his new name. Another more recent family relation by marriage did the very same thing.
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« skrivet: 2016-11-11, 21:40 »
I looked at the marriage record, agreed with Lumson and then left it for half a day.
But I recalled how names changed in USA. Otto's fathers name has become Johnson from
Jonsson. And elsewhere in the record Swedish names such as Andersson have become
Anderson. Further this was the time when -dotter names for women were changing to -son,
so all the womens name were eg Anderson. And Svensdotter became Svensson !
I have one suggestion. I looked at the mothers name and imagined myself as a pastor reading
a name from a handwritten page, and putting down what he thought it said. Perhaps he could
not read Svenson or Svensson. It became Lumson. Capital S and L similar. No letters with
up or down strokes. Similar length word. A pastor not familiar with Swedish names. Not a
perfect explanation but equally could have happened that way.
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« skrivet: 2016-11-09, 11:31 »
Wow ! I think Christ Karin as a misreading/misinterpretation of Stina Caisa with patronymic name Svensdotter is as near as you could wish for. I think I myself would accept this a perfect match for your ancestor unless something else comes to raise any serious doubt. Note for completion, Stina's family name from father of Hägg also on household register page. Do see if you can show some photograph backs as I posted above.
(Both myself and Helena posting together, but still marvelling at how the right sources,skill and a bit of luck seem to have found your ancestor - I have looked at Karlstorp C:5, AI:14, 15, 16 for interest. All spot on.)
Late addition - family covered on Swedish site Disbyt, a shortcut to finding ancestors (membership required). Otto seems to have had a brother, a half brother and a half sister surviving and having families in Sweden.
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« skrivet: 2016-11-09, 10:38 »
Normally without a place of origin, this would be looking for a needle in a haystack. But what Helena has found is so remarkable as to make her finding very very plausible. Just to add. Mothers name Christ would be Christina, often shortened to Stina, the wife and mother on the register picture. So the only single small fact that does not match is her second name, Lumson, which is like a misread Larsson. What would help make this even closer would be if you could show the backs of some photos where we could help decipher the Swedish. Just to add, Karlstorp was a parish in Småland. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlstorps_socken finds it (sorry, in Swedish and short on deciferable detail) with a picture of the old bell tower, and most helpfully, the global coordinates which you can click on to get a map. I hope anyone with a connection will forgive me for saying it seems to be in a pretty remote place for somewhere in South Sweden.
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« skrivet: 2016-11-09, 10:17 »
First a reminder of the basics. Childrens last names were pre 1900 derived from the fathers full name, specifically his first christian name. So if the child who died aged 4 was the son of Per Andersson (you do not give his first name), a son would without doubt be Persson and a daughter Persdotter. If the illegitimate child had an acknowledged father in the birth record, then the same would apply.
Quite likely an illegitimate daughter of a woman named Larsdotter would otherwise be Larsdotter, and a son Larsson.
I have a family example following the above for a son. However, the son adapted a different last name when adult, leading to my own speculation that his mother had at some time told him his fathers name, so he chose to use that name. However, the priest stuck to recording his old name in the household registers, only allowing him the name he had himself chosen to use on death. Possibly the new name gives a clue to the real fathers name, no further information has appeared.
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« skrivet: 2016-10-28, 22:05 »
Common amongst farmers, where to hold on to the tenancy and to farm economically, a married couple needed to live on the farm. A widower would remarry with a young wife as soon as possible, to look after young children being one reason, and perhaps to give him more children to work on the farm. A widow had to wait her year of mourning but then would marry a young farm hand, who would be capable of hard work being the main reason, otherwise she would not keep hold of the farm. Nevertheless the age difference you quote is at the extreme of the range. But it was one way for an otherwise poor male to get a stake in a farm, not otherwise attainable from meagre farm workers wages.
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« skrivet: 2016-10-28, 10:19 »
Se AI:4 sidan 117 Fyllinge Kvarn. Fadr Pål Lundstedt (struckit) - han dog 1861-6-21.
Lundstedt, Pål Ålder: 69 år Fyllinge mölla Död 21/6 1861 Begravd 26/6 1861 Dödsorsak: Bröstsjuka
Ett träd på Disbyt har en Christina Sjunnesdotter Holmgren f 1792 Tåssjö Kristianstads g 1814 Tåssjö med en Pål Lundstedt. Se Össjö EI:2 1814 vigsel Nr.9.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2016-08-24, 22:29 »
Wivenhoe är i Essex, England. Vad var handelse ?
John
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« skrivet: 2016-08-03, 19:05 »
Hans far var Johannes Nilsson Gillberg och hans farfar var Nils Gillberg. Hans farbror var Sven Nilsson Gillberg. Nils Gillbergs ättlingar finns i Getinge, Kvibille, Steninge, Harplinge, Halmstad, Eftra plus mera. Per Gillbergs bouppteckning finns med upplysningar om hustru, två barn och två bröder.
1845:49. Getinge.
No10. 1845 13/10. Pehr Gillberg, Väggarp /Getinge/, avi. d.2/10.
H: Svenborg Jönsdoter.
B: Johan August 5 år, Johannes 4 månader.
Å änkans vä: Nils Ericsson, Folkestad /Rävinge/.
Å om vä: Farbröder Sven Gillberg, Qvibille Lundsgården och Pehr Jönsson
Hem, Getinge Socken.
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« skrivet: 2016-08-03, 10:37 »
Per Hallonkvist var också klockare i Harplinge, och var son till Jöns Jeppesson från Husen, Harplinge. Inger Rings far var kyrkoherde Hans Ring. Dottrar var Annagreta gm klockaren och Organisten Olaus Stenbeck, Johanna Charlotta gm torparen Mattis Svensson. Charlotta hade 4 barn, 4 pojkar som tåg efternamnet Matsson, och dotter Agneta som tåg namnet Hallonqvist. Hon g m Isaac Franzesko Strüve 1840-11-19 Kristianstad. Jag har upplysningar om många av Jöns Jeppessons anor och ättlingar.
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« skrivet: 2016-07-27, 10:20 »
In the 1880 Census the family is in Andra roten Nora stadsförs /Nora bergsförs/ (Örebro län, VästmanlandFredriksson, Elias August 1854 Father Tailor Lindeman, Sofia Augusta 1851 Mother (Barn), August Alfred Engelbrekt 1877 Born Stockholm (Barn), Linnéa Axelina Maria 1879 And I noted this and more at http://www.genealogy.com/forum/regional/states/topics/il/cook/7425/John
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« skrivet: 2016-06-08, 23:33 »
If Carl Gustaf had been alive and had married Carolinas mother, then most definitely she would have been Carlsdotter. But if he was known to the mother as Gustaf, and she told her daughter that her father was Gustaf, then....... I quote a precedent from my Swedish family. My great grandfather was Carl Anders, but was known to the family as Anders. Its why I was so curious when she was first recorded as Gustavsdotter.
We might think of a sequence of events. While her mother was alive she would simply have been oäkta Carolina. Once her mother had died she would need a second name. It could have been the same as her mothers. Butr I can see the priest asking at the annual household meeting, "you must have a proper name, girl, who was your father ?" "My mother said it was Gustaf, sir" "So you will hence be called Gustafsdotter". I can well believe that happening. You were named as the priest decreed. Again I can quote a family precedent, where the priest decided on a boys name that did not follow the normal -son patronymic, because he said, "That is a good name, so you will hence be called ......."
This is all very possible, the first godparent with the dead son being a very strong reason. Of course there might be another explanation, but .....
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« skrivet: 2016-06-08, 10:25 »
Hans has worked hard, mainly gathering a lot of data seemingly showing how we have all been looking in too narrow a way in the wrong place and for the wrong person. But while we have all I think just enjoyed doing some research and hopfully helping another, a mystery remains. For Christopher, the trees on Ancestry seem to require careful study, and contact made with their owners. For example there is a tree there from a Sholin family member with Caroline born 16 May 1863 in Kalmar town with parents Gus Gustavson and Caroline. Where did she get this information? Did she have help from someone in Sweden? But I have done my bit. I leave it to others now.
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« skrivet: 2016-06-07, 11:14 »
Thanks to Monica for tracking Carolina through the AI registers.
You can see why Carolina escaped to America at the earliest opportunity, that is as soon as she was of-age, 21 yrs and 1 month old! Being always labelled oäkta and then frånfallna after her mother died. That is all identified very clearly in AI:30 s.310, mothers name and emigration date on the same page. She became Gustafsdotter when listed on her own after her mother died. But we do not know who Gustaf was, or do we ?
There is no question that trees on Disbyt are invariably of high quality. In contrast Sholin (Sjölin) trees on Ancestry are a mess (as happens with trees on Ancestry). Some even have Carolina being from Hungary. Another has the father as Gus Gustavsson! I have found two that have the father as Carl Gustaf Jonasson from Widebäcksmåla who died 1860-3-2. Who was he ?
The link is that the first named godparent is Jonas Gummersson from Widebäcksmåla, and from AI:21 s.54 he had a son Carl Gustaf, who dies just before Carolinas birth. Is this evidence that they were engaged/förlovad and he was the father ? But the connection is there.
Any thoughts ?
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« skrivet: 2016-06-06, 22:22 »
"It is still somewhat disturbing that the DISBYT record has Caroline as born 1863 in Kalmar landsförsamling." Why ? As it says on each page "DISBYT är en andrahandskälla. " It is not infallible.
Equally American records such as marriage and census information can have dates out by one or more years, and places wrong. And parents names incorrect. A lot of judgement required.
Anyway we have enough forChristopher to consider.
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« skrivet: 2016-06-06, 18:12 »
Well, I found mother and daughter in 1861-1870, and 1878 on, but the crucial gap needs filling. So, see Ai:25 p58 and p326. And then AI:30 p310. Nothing is proven until that is joined up.
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« skrivet: 2016-06-06, 15:13 »
I only first saw one Carlolina who is the one named Andersdotter in 1880. Not Gustavsdotter/Gustavsson. But actually, there are two Carolinas born 16/5, both oäkta (illegitimate), mothers name only given, and that certainly is curious ! And how do you know which one is which when they get older?
However, what ties up with the Ancestry tree is that there the mother is given as Ingrid Carlsdotter, mother of the second of the Carolinas born 16/5 , and the father is given as Carl Gustav Jonasson. So without knowing how the originator of that tree got the information, we have the mother and daughter identified with the second Carolina entry in Torsås CI:9 on 16/5, and a father who would have a daughter either Carlsdotter or Gustavsdotter.
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« skrivet: 2016-06-06, 13:59 »
Curiously the Carolina born that date in Torsås is found there still in the 1880 Census as Karolina Andersdotter along with mother Elin Månsdotter. This will take some unravelling, but interesting !
Correction - wrong Carolina - see next posts
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« skrivet: 2016-06-06, 10:36 »
There is a tree on Ancestry with this family with her born as Carolina Gustavsdotter on 16 May 1860 in Kalmar. So I can see a tree on Disbyt back for the Sjölin side, and a tree on Ancestry back 3 generations for Carolinas father, Carl Gustav Jonassons side. There is a good fit in the detail where it overlaps for the 2 trees, though Ancestry includes more precise dates etc. Let me know if you do not have access to the Ancestry tree.
John
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« skrivet: 2016-05-29, 13:57 »
First a comment - it so helps if you can put a reference to any record you show here. (I confess that this is not where I usually search). The page you picture is from the parish household register Överluleå AI:6a (1874-1884) Image 68 / page 59.
So we have Erik and Anna Sofia, inh. and fattig. - they were poor and "Inhysys". From http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/2450/135390.html?1268555096 (read down the text to 6/), they were living in probably one room in someone elses house, as old and poor folk.
They lived at Kullberget, Skatamark, Överluleå parish, Norrbotten county. You have found Skatamark, and there seem to be two nature reserves named Kallberget (note spelling) from the places listed on
http://www.bygdeband.se/plats/322586/sverige/norrbottens-lan/boden/overlulea/ However, Skatamark is NE of Boden, and both Kallbergets are the same distance SW of Boden.
Indexing for the 1874-1884 volumes shows an alternative spelling for Kullberget as Kallberget, while East and West Kallbergets exist and are seemingly located in another part of Överluleå parish. This makes me think that your Kullberget/Kallberget was a farm (gård) or smallholding (torp) and a part of Skatamark village, and has simply disappeared today, as really has Skatamark itself! The two nature reserves, very close together might be the east and West Kallbergets. Perhaps someone with detailed local knowledge might be able to correct me !
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« skrivet: 2016-05-10, 15:20 »
Jag tänker nu att han är din C A Sjöberg. Han har namnet, han levde just som Johanna Severina i Norra Förstaden, han gick till Chicago (åldret var 22, inte 32, med emigration), han var en kille med omkring samma ålder. Och husförhörslängd har notering "F.S?. 89 29/3", kanske datum när han gick till Köpenhamn ? Vad tror du ?
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« skrivet: 2016-05-09, 20:48 »
Karl Adolf Andreas Sjöberg sadelmakare gessel f. 1866-1-19 Malmö finns Halmstad AI:45 s.698 15, i Norra förstaden No.9. Far var Karl Enoch Sjöberg, handlande och familjen finns i Malmö Qv. Skepparen. i 1880. Var det han ?
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« skrivet: 2016-05-04, 15:49 »
Se också Halmstad C:11 s25. 239. f Sept 6, d 11. Född "Elin Konstantia oäkta trolofvade" till Johanna Severina Persdotter, piga. Och "Kyrkkotagen ....... C Sjöbergs i Chicago hustru". Så det samma som i hfl.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2016-04-03, 12:41 »
Johanna Sjölin, man Nils Peter Ljungberg, dräng Samuel Svensson, pigan Helena Jernberg, alla Gamletull (GT)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2016-04-03, 11:47 »
Hallands befolkning CD har
Carl Edvard Reinholt
Född 13/7 1848 i Gamletull, Snöstorp (Halland) Döpt 18/7 1848 Börd: uä
Far Svensson, Johannes Fabriksarbetare
Mor Nilsdotter, Lovisa 23 år
Och det ser ut absolut rätt till mig. Vill du vet mera om faddrar osv?
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2016-01-16, 10:52 »
Kanske HGF:s CD-skivor hjälper. Se http://hgf.e-butik.se/ - CD Digitalfoto Mantalslängder, - 1674, 1688-1765 och -1674-1775 spridda år - CD Dansktiden med digitalfotograferade bilder från Hallands danska tid, vilket innebär före 1645 - John (Meddelandet ändrat av johnb 2016-01-16 10:53)
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« skrivet: 2016-01-06, 13:36 »
Hej ! Till höger av första e-butik sidan ser man en bild av kuvertet och en beskrivning av CD'n. Och under CD Kyrkoboksregister finns bara Hallands Befolkning version 2014, CD 380 kr Se http://hallandsslaktforskare.se/index.php/e-bokhandel och klicka på Detaljerad information. En andrahandskälla så att kanske man också titta på bilder av kyrkoböcker ibland, med absolut utmärkt. John
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« skrivet: 2016-01-06, 09:57 »
Hej!
Från Hallands Släktforskarförenings CD
Hem.eg Johannes Nilsson, Boarp No3, 26 år
Hemadotter Johanna Beata Bengtsdr, Lundby No2, 24 år
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2015-12-19, 13:03 »
Steninge hade ingen Prästgård, men Steninge var i Harplinge socken, och Harplinge säkert hade Prästgård.
I 1810 kom gossen Petter Andersson från Långaryd, f. 1791-9-6 till Harplinge. Den endast Petter Andersson som finns i böcker. Och bor han första i Harplinge Prästgård ? Tyvärr församlingsböcker över Harplinge bara börjar 1814.
Och är det möjligt att de Petter Andersson vi söker kom från Harplinge Prästegård till Steninge i 1813 ? Vi vet inte. Och ålder säkert inte stämmer. Men vi skulle nota att Långaryd var till 1973 i Jönköpings län, dvs Småland !! Den vi söker var från Småland.
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Från Steninge hfl AI:1 1813-14 finns han första på Bäckagård, och har kommit efter Apr 1812. Det står på femte sidan från Prostg?? och till Vestergård. På tredje sidan (Västergård) står det att han har kommit från Bäckagård. Men är det Prostg ? eller ??. Steninge har ingen Prästegård (Prostgård). Ja, senare det står från Småland. Om någonting ny finns, så jag skriver igen.
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Utan kyrkböcker måsta man tar tydelse från vad finns, dvs mantalslängder och bouppteckningar. Att Tala f 1781-01-28 finns i Steninge husförhörslängder. Talas far f. omkring 1747 och dog i Stålarp. Talas farmor Börta Nilsdotter f. Ågarp Nr.1, döpt 1716-02-26 Vapnö. Talas farfars far Tomas Persson finns i Stålarp 1729 enligt Hallands Landsbesrifning 1729.
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« skrivet: 2015-12-15, 21:07 »
Thala/Tala namns i båda mor och fars bouppteckningar med hennes ålder, också med systrar Helena d ä och Helena d y, som du vet nu. Fadern Per Svensson namns i hans fars bouppteckning. Se Getinge 1763:24 Bouppteckning 1763-06-29 Hans Tomasson som dog 1763-06 Stålarp Nr.1. Från det är det möjligt att finna Talas mor född i Vapnö och morsföräldrar.
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« skrivet: 2015-12-14, 20:17 »
Hej !
Far Per Hansson, mor Anna Svensdotter, de levde Stålarp Nr.1. Anna dog Stålarp 1795, Per dog Mostarp 1801. Se Bouppteckningar Getinge 1796:14, Thala 14 år och 1801:22, Tala 19 år.
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John
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« skrivet: 2015-12-03, 10:51 »
Hej !
Torrwärk eller tarmwärk? Ja, Göran har rätt och Hallands släktforskarförenings CD har fel.
John
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« skrivet: 2015-12-02, 21:09 »
Hej !
Det är klart att Johannes Johansson, dvs Jönsson, ålder: 62 år 9 mån dog 15/12 1828 i Stålarp, Begravd 21/12 1828, Dödsorsak: Tarmvärk. Sjuk sedan midsommartiden. Källa: Getinge CI:1.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2015-11-29, 11:47 »
Hej Ulla
Elna Johannesdotter var från Stålarp (Gift med Arvid Bengtsson 1821-09-16 Getinge, (N)
Dräng Risarp / Pigan Stålarp). Se Nils-Yngve Herrströms post här på Anbytarforum lördagen 25 oktober 2014 - 15:20. Om Christian Andersson har jag ingen aning. Har du upplysningar om Arvid Bengtsson ? Jag har intresse också om honom.
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John
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« skrivet: 2015-11-26, 16:37 »
Hej Ulla !
Kanske inte så svårt. Hallands Släktforskarföreningens befolkning cd har
Johanna
Född 19/10 1821 i Risarp, Getinge (Halland) Döpt 21/10 1821
Far Bengtsson, Arfvid
Mor Johannesdotter, Ellna 24 år
Källa: Getinge CI:1
Är det hon ?
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John
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« skrivet: 2015-08-20, 10:18 »
Hej !
Hon var säkert dotter till Jöns och Petronella, men hade rest till Tyskland. Hon var inte barn i 1874. Kanske ni söker vidare i husförhörslängder.
Enligt Hallands Befolkning CD
Svensson, Jöns Åbo Stora Nannarp
Pettersdotter, Petronella Pigan Bäckatorpet Könarp
Vigda 19/4 1840 i Holm (Halland)
Enligt 1890 Folkräkning
Svensson, Jöns Undantags f.1816 i Holm
Petersdotter, Petronella f. 1818 i Holm
Levde Öppinge 4 Snöstorp (Hallands län, Halland)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2015-08-12, 21:12 »
Hej !
Hon finns med föräldrar Snöstorp Årnarp Nr.1 Snöstorp AI:1 1871-1880 s.51 med far Jöns Svensson och mor Petronella Petersdotter. Av intresse är att hon kom från Tyskland 1874 ! Bror Bengt Peter var åbo på platsen.
Enligt Hallands Befolknings CD var födelse
Ingiar Född 12/8 1846 i Stora Nannarp, Holm (Halland) Döpt 16/8 1846
Far Svensson, Jöns Åbo Mor Pettersdotter, Petronella 28 år
Källa: Holm CI:4
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2015-06-25, 19:23 »
Hi Leif. I don't think I will be the only one reading your original post, who was a little curious that your Nils Nilsson had children born within 2 years as far apart geographically as Malmöhus and Östergötland. Happily, your last post makes it a little easier for us to examine records ourselves. My own searching of original records and then published information finds the online site gultarpgen.se where by typing in the name Anna Nilsdotter at the top left of the page, you can follow through and see more information on the Anna Nilsdotter who married Nils Månsson in 1805 in Billegerga, Malmöhus. They were born in 1784 and 1768 in Härslöv and Billeberga respectively.
Perhaps if you gave us a little more on your more recent tree to help us see how you got back to this pair, we could help you further, and then look more closely at their ancestors. John
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« skrivet: 2015-05-28, 17:09 »
Hej !
Du har sidan via e-mejl
John
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« skrivet: 2015-05-13, 14:46 »
Hej
Familjen finns i Skedala Sofiero på sidan 162, Nr.13 Carl Aug. Tobiason, Nr.14 mor Amalia Wadensten, osv, men i register AI:41 (1879-1882). Och i 1879 familjen finns på sidan 73. Och till Göteborg 1879-08-26.
Och så i 1880 Folkräkning i Fässberg (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
Tobiasson, Karl August 1854 Far
Vadensten, Amalia 1853 Mor Nöttja (Kronobergs län, Småland)
(Barn), Karl Oskar 1879 Barn Halmstad
(Barn), Ida Augusta 1875 Barn Halmstad, hennes oäkta dr
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« skrivet: 2015-05-12, 21:07 »
Hej
Finns i Snöstorps inflyttningslängd B2 1861-1894 1877-11-26. Se Årsnummer 160-163. Carl August, hustru + 2 dottrar.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2015-05-05, 21:00 »
Hej Jag har skrivit i oktober Tyvär finns Folket i några byar och gårdar i Skrea socken inte att köpa från Hallands släktforskarförening (se http://hgf.e-butik.se/) men de säkert har upplysningar. Kontakt http://hallandsslaktforskare.se/index.php/kontakt . Ingemar Rosengrens CD:r finns nu och jag har själv köpt två. Tretton finns nu och senast på webplats är att fler socknar kommer inom kort. John (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2015-05-05 23:10)
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« skrivet: 2015-05-05, 20:46 »
Hej
Tuworna = tuvorna idag. Tuva = liten gräsbeväxt upphöjning på marken.
Hallands Släktforskarförening CD Hallands Befolkning version 2014 har folk från Tuvorna mellan 1698 och 1778.
Hallands Landsbeskrifning 1729 har några stugor med Tufworne däribland i Skintaby. I 1729 två enkor bodde där. Så Tuvorna var en tomt med stuga, tror jag.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2015-05-04, 15:46 »
5,5 fot = 5 fot 6 tum = 1.676 m (fot = ft eller foot, tum = in eller inch) Se http://kokthansogreta.nu/gamlaenheter/?p=7 mvh John (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2015-05-04 15:50) (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2015-05-04 15:51)
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« skrivet: 2015-03-26, 09:16 »
Hej !
Hon finns i Gunnastorp, Vessige i 1859 (AI:7 s.10) och Vessige N:r 12 Nedre Möllan i 1880.
En barn född 1859
Johan Mårten Född 11/9 1859 i Gunnastorp, Vessige (Halland)
Döpt 17/9 1859 Börd: uä
Far(Ingen namnuppgift)
Mor Lundin, Beata Modr. Pig., 25 år
Gunnastorp
mvh
John
(Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2015-03-26 09:45)
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« skrivet: 2015-03-15, 17:58 »
Hej ! Från Hallands befolkning cd vigslar följande hemort för man och kvinna finns. 1924 Lindgren, Johan Gustaf William sjöman, 1896-11-12 V. Kolonihusen Eliasson, Elsa Ingeborg Charlotta tjänarinna, 1903-08-25 V. Kolonihusen i normerade begrepp Västra förstaden Kolonihusen 1933 Bengtsson, Ivar Reinhold chaufför, 1908-01-31 R 37 A Lindgren, Gunborg Sinejda 1906-11-25 S 37 Kolonihusen A i normerade begrepp Södra förstaden Nr 37 Kolonihusen A I 1936 ser vi Södra Förstaden Koloniföreningen Myran, det samma ? Också i 1936 Västra förstaden Kolonistugorna. Så det finns sjömän i 1924 i Västra förstaden Kolonihusen. Vad var namnet ? Du kanske skulle ta kontakt med Gamla Halmstad, www.gamlahalmstad.se. Jag är ganska säkert att de hjälper dig. John (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2015-03-15 18:01)
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« skrivet: 2015-03-08, 15:54 »
Hej!
I have had contact with Mats and the note is at the very end of Snöstorp hfl, not the utflyttningslängd. The family were at Snöstorp Nr.7. But were before in Harplinge and Kvibille. They moved around.
There is full information about the mothers ancestry on Disbyt. The father was born 1837 in Harplinge not 1834 and is in my own Swedish ancestry.
John
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« skrivet: 2015-03-08, 12:07 »
Hi Simply, up until 1900. Male children had a given name (Severin) and a surname indicating who their father was (Carlsson, son of Carl). Female children had a given name (Benedikta) and again a surname indicating their fathers name (Persdotter, daughter of Per). Married women did not change their surnames on marriage. Only clergy and certain craftsmen had family names. My Swedish relatives were the only ones in the village other than an estate manager to have a family name since the first with that name was a strandridare, a Government appointed Customs official. See http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/Naming%20practice_eng.htm It would take more searching to find cousins, but sister Sofia was born 1866-8-16 and brother Johan 1870-10-19. I will see if I can trace the parents back through the registers of moving permits (in/utflyttning). John
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« skrivet: 2015-03-07, 19:11 »
Hi
It is good when you can be certain you have found a missing relative, and difficult when you are not sure. You can only gather evidence and keep checking facts to decide how sure you are.
I have a large family history database, and there I have entries for (selected common names) Anders 1492, Nils 1366, Bengt 1197, Per 961, Sven 937 ............. and Severin 64. So not at all a common name.
Severin was born to Carl Svensson born 1834-04-24 and Benedikta Persdotter born 1833-11-24 at Sperlingsholm, a castle and estate only a few kilometers outside Halmstad. The parents were married 1865-11-16 in Övraby and the family are in Övraby household register AI:5 1861-1870 page 49. There is a sister Sofia and a brother Johan recorded. Carl was a statdräng, a labourer of the poorest type and paid in kind. I cannot read the birth places of the parents, since they are faint and places unfamiliar to me.
It would be kind if someone else could read the birth places for you.
I will post again if I find more.
Regards John
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« skrivet: 2015-03-06, 21:28 »
Hi
I think there are factors that make him likely to be your great grandfather, and would make me look to explain the differences. Firstly Severin is not such a common name. Secondly, Övraby is often considered as linked with Halmstad in records. Thirdly the date is different but quite close. And where in all the records that exist are you likely to find another Severin Karlsson from a border parish to Halmstad who emigrated to the very town in Russia where your grandfather lived?
Some comments. 99% of Swedes who emigrated went to USA, emigration to Russia is pretty unusual.
My great great grandfather emigrated to USA and then visited Sweden when his wife died some years later. The records hence show him emigrating twice from Sweden, so two dates are found for when he went to USA.
Note Carl and Karl, Carlsson and Karlsson are alternative spellings that can be found for the same person.
I hope this encourages you. I myself have only found a Severin Ernfrid born in Halmstad 1865, but no other Severin close to the date.
John
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« skrivet: 2015-01-07, 10:50 »
Lundin var båtsmans namn från Slöinge och Valinge. Hon finns som Beata Lundin i Vessige från 1863.
J
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« skrivet: 2014-11-12, 17:59 »
Oh dear, I missed them at the bottom of that page, 160, Abild AI:7 1874-87, parents and a son Gustaf Alfrid, when I looked. But other Gabrielssons and Gabrielsdotters on the page! Related ?
Also I missed that it was Gabrielsson And. Inhys, so it refers to him. Still things for me to learn.
Do I manage 9/10 ?
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« skrivet: 2014-11-12, 14:10 »
This is a case of getting used to the shorthand used. My best effort -
Emilie Kristina, 2nd child, born 23rd, bap 27th, father Anders Gabrielsson, mother Ida Andreasdotter (Likely, often becomes Andersdotter in records), Inhyses = stay at home mother, married 6 yrs. Godparents Und = Pensioner Andreas Johansson & wife Greta Magnusdotter from Nädhult N:o 3 Kinnared (from 1880 census, Kinnared), (Her parents), and Samuel Karlsson (m h - with wife ?)also Kinnared.
Last column says baptised in Kinnared, according to proof written 29 Jan, sent to priest in Abild. We do not know how the register entries were done, whether later from other notes or at the time of baptism, but the numbers are according to birth date order. (Not always the case elsewhere)
Note the family were in the poorhouse in Kinnared in 1890.
Gabrielsson, Anders 1845 F Andersdotter, Ida 1846 M
(Barn), Emelia Kristina 1877 Ch (Barn), Karl August 1881 Ch
(Barn), Alma Elisabeth 1882 Ch (Barn), Sabina Ottilia 1885 Ch
John
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« skrivet: 2014-11-09, 11:18 »
Hej,
Hallands Befolkning CD har
Johanna Född 12/2 1710 i S Stensered, Drängsered (Halland)
Far Svensson, Knut Mor Nilsd:r, Kerstin
Källa: Drängsered CI:1
Normerade begrepp Ort: Södra Stensered Moderns efternamn: Nilsdotter
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2014-10-29, 19:33 »
Hej!
Ett mycket kort träd finns på Ancestry med Charles och Josefina och 5 barn (4 utan namn) och ett barnbarn (utan namn). Charles dog 1942 q4 i Birmingham (Bradley Charles H Age 61 Birmingham 6d 118) och Josefina dog 1959 q2 i Birmingham (BRADLEY Josephine W Age 79 Birmingham 9c 275). Kanske du tar kontakt med ägare av trädet Bradley Family Tree, sökning med Charles Henry Bradley f.1880 Sweden på Ancestry.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2014-10-23, 16:58 »
Hej ! Tyvär finns Folket i några byar och gårdar i Skrea socken inte att köpa från Hallands släktforskarförening (se http://hgf.e-butik.se/) men de säkert har upplysningar. Kontakt http://hallandsslaktforskare.se/index.php/kontakt . Upplysningar om Gunillas far Olof Svenssons anor över tre generationer tillbaka säkert finns, och du är välkommen att skicka email till mig. mvh John
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« skrivet: 2014-10-22, 17:39 »
Hej !
Hon var från Veka Nr.1 Skrea, f.1756-12-25. Från hennes bouppteckning Harplinge 1802:6, ser vi att en förmyndare var hennes bror, kronolotsen Nils Olofsson, Veka.
Hennes faster Bengta Svensdotter var g med Per Jönsson, och levde Gullbrandstorp Nr.1.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2014-10-14, 15:19 »
Hej !
På andra raden står det handels borgaren fr: Laholm
Handelsborgare - hade borgarrätt till marknadshandel med alster från hembygden.
Alster - grönsaker osv ?
Marknadskrämmare - ??
John
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« skrivet: 2014-10-13, 18:28 »
Hej igen !
I 1790 var Mattis Herman avskedade artillerihantlangaren, boende i Edenberga, Ränneslöv.
John
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« skrivet: 2014-10-13, 17:58 »
Också
Militära uppgifter
Rote_Nr 117 Rote Ösarp o Restad Socken Laholm Lf Kompani Södra
Antagen 1819-05-24 Avskedad 1848-04-22
John
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« skrivet: 2014-10-13, 17:48 »
Hej!
Halländska båtsmän CD har att hans födelsedatum var 1795-12-30 i Laholm.
Från Hallands Befolkning CD,
Mattisson, Peter
Född 1/1 1795 i Laholm, Tjärby (Halland) Döpt 2/1 1795
Far Herman, Mattis Handelsborgaren Laholm
Mor Olsdotter, Brita
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John
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« skrivet: 2014-05-08, 19:38 »
Hej
I 1890 Peter Johan Andersson Gren finns med hustru och barn i Norra förstaden No 54 55, Halmstad.
Se Svar SE/LLA/13138/A I/451882 - 1897 Volym III. Norra förstaden. Bild 122
Från Folkräkningar.
I 1890 Peter Johan Andersson Gren finns med hustru och barn i Östra förstaden N:o 62 Lyckan, Halmstad.
I 1900 och 1910 Peter Johan Andersson Gren finns med hustru och barn i Östra förstaden N:o 63, Halmstad.
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John
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« skrivet: 2014-04-18, 18:33 »
Hej Marianne !
Inflyttningslängden har för mig 1845-06-16 (men kanske 1843 och kanske -05) och säkert -16.
Inflyttningsattest finns inte med Svar. (Såg inte din sista meddelande tidigare - ja, kanske det finns i Landsarkivet i Göteborg)
Det var mest av intresse för mig hur felet händer. Min egen släkt i Halland är från Harplinge/Steninge trakten.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2014-04-18, 16:54 »
Hej
Ölmevalla kyrkoarkiv, Flyttningslängder, SE/LLA/13505/B/2 (1845-1861) har
Utflyttning 1857 Inger Lena Olausdotter f. 1839-01-13
och Onsala kyrkoarkiv, Flyttningslängder, SE/LLA/13297/B/2 (1849-1860) har
Inflyttning 1857 Inger Lena Olausdotter f. 1845-06-16
Så fel var med Inflyttningsattest ?
mvh
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« skrivet: 2014-04-13, 10:41 »
Hej ! Hallands Släktforskarförening säljer digitalfoto kyrkoböcker på cd Söndrum Kyrkoböcker 1895-1934/1 CD-skivan Söndrum Kyrkoböcker 1895-1934/1, innehåller Födelse-, dödbok 1871-1935 se http://hgf.e-butik.se/ mvh John
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« skrivet: 2014-02-06, 11:07 »
Hej
Från Folkräkningar. Han finns med hustru och barn i 1900 och 1910 i Espered, Enslöv. I 1910 Espered N:o 21 Fridhem.
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John
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« skrivet: 2014-01-28, 10:25 »
Hej
Från Hallands Befolkning CD (Hallands Släktforskarförening)
Johan Peter
Född 14/12 1853 i Wallanäs, Getinge (Halland) Döpt 17/12 1853
Börd: u.ä !!
Far Svensson, Johan Peter Dräng Fröllinge
Mor Larsdotter, Neta Piga, 22 år
Källa: Getinge C:1
I 1890 han finns som Johan Peter Petersson Johansson, Tullvaktmäst, gift, i Göteborg
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« skrivet: 2014-01-07, 14:14 »
Fritz Albert Petersson f 1878-12-18 (från Halmstads dödbok) i Söderala, Gävleborgs
1880 folkräkning
Ljusne Sågverk Söderala och Maråker /Ljusne/ (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland
Pettersson, Nils Magnus 1849 Ransäter (Värmlands län, Värmland)
Andersdotter, Matilda 1850 Garpenberg (Kopparbergs län, Dalarna)
(Barn), Karl Filip 1875 Barn
(Barn), Fritz Albert 1878 Barn
I Stockholm med två barn till i 1890
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2013-12-19, 10:38 »
Hej ! Jag tror att V.F. är Västra förstaden, hus nummer är 37C med namnet Liljedal/Liljedahl. Stadsdelen Väster utgörs till större delen av ett villaområde, som anlades vid början av 1900-talet och är belägen i sluttningen mot Galgberget. Föreningen Gamla Halmstad har kartor, bilder och mycket mera. Se webplatsen och kontakt http://www.gamlahalmstad.se/index.php/kontakta-oss. mvh John
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« skrivet: 2013-12-16, 11:49 »
Hej !
Det står att Anna f. 1862-04-23 Fränninge var oäkta dotter till Mamsell Hedvig. Från hfl Kristianstad 175 1879-1888 var hon fosterdotter till släkten, och gick till USA 1883
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2013-12-16, 11:27 »
Hej !
Har ni sett Anbytarforum » Släktnamn » Övriga släkter - H » Hallonqvist / Hallenqvist » Äldre inlägg (arkiv) till 28 augusti, 2005
Sven-Göran Hallonquist har postat söndagen 10 april 2005 - 11:07
5.4.3 Lovisa Tullgren f 20/2 1816 Jungfru Lovisa Tullgren (d 28/3 1839 i barnsäng. Dödfödd dotter 16/2 1839. BOU 4/6 1839), Gamle Tull gift i Snöstorp 31/12 1838 med Isak Franzesko Str?ve/Struve (d 1/5 1885 i Kristianstad) , Repslagarlärling hos Repslagamästaren Bengt Jacobsson i Halmstad g.m. Greta Påhlsdotter Hallonqvist ovan);
Man skulle läsa allting som Sven-Göran har postat.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2013-11-16, 21:28 »
Från Hallands Släktforskarförening CD
Vigda 9/12 1897 i Harplinge, Lysning 31/10 1897
Jakobsson, Karl Magnus Stenh., 1868-10-08 Skee N 2
Andersson, Emilia Piga, 1878-12-06 Skintaby N 2
Carl Magnus Född 8/10 1868 i Lynga N 1, Harplinge
Döpt 16/10 1868
Far Andersson, Jakob Tp. Mor Jakobsdotter, Anna 33 år
Emelie
Född 6/12 1878 i Carolinehed, Snöstorp (13)
Far Johansson, Anders Statardräng, 34 år
Mor Christiansdotter, Beata 29 år
Lilla Skee Nr.2 och Stora Skee Nr.1, Harplinge är lätt att finnas på Eniro.se. (Var = Lilla eller Stora Skee, Harplinge)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2013-10-09, 14:51 »
Hej
I 1901 vi ser igen i Fleming Road
John Anderson 45
Fanny Anderson 39
Annie Anderson 16
John Anderson 15
William Anderson 14
Charles Anderson 12
Ernest Anderson 11
Theodore Anderson 9
Oliver Anderson 8
Frank Anderson 6
Stanley Anderson 4
Från 1911 folkräkning ser vi att de hade 10 levande barn.
Namnet Anderson är inte så ovanligt i England, just som i Sverige, men jag tror att en John (Johan) August skräddare född i Sverige är säkert han.
Det finns en John August Anderson f. 1855 Sverige i Northumberland men han var inte skräddare.
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John
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« skrivet: 2013-10-07, 16:01 »
Hej igen !
Säkert är det din Brita.
15 Ashdown Road, Kingston On Thames, Kingston
Britta Anderson 58 Gothenburg, Sweden Ogift Dress Maker
Charles Pengelley 49 Ogift Boarder Private means (Han har pengar, arbetar inte, och hyr ett rum)
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2013-10-05, 17:35 »
Hej
Folkräkning 1901 på 31 mars 1901
Whitton Road, Twickenham
Brita M Anderson 48 år Dressmaker Swedish subject
Jannon Johanson 20 år Nephew Swedish subject
Carolina Kron 57 år Visitor Widow General Servant Swedish subject
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John
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« skrivet: 2013-10-01, 10:40 »
And from Sala town parish records, father was Carl Blomquist (farm hand at time of birth, father was a farmer) and the mother was Anna Stina Wikström. Pretty consistent with your original, given Stina is a shortening of Christina and the likely corruption of Wikström when pronounced the Swedish way to an English ear or as misreading of the written word. Though the origin of the John Thomson is a bit more elusive.
John
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« skrivet: 2013-09-21, 14:37 »
Är det hur många år personen var 1881/ 1911? Just det, hur många år att personen var på dagen av census, dvs april 3 i 1881 t ex. John Lea var John Henry Lea, f. Everton, Liverpool. Se http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ Births Oct - Dec 1908 Lea, John Henry, W. Derby 8b 447 W Derby = West Derby and it is in the county of Lancashire (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2013-09-21 14:39)
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« skrivet: 2013-09-11, 10:32 »
Hej
Hallands befolkning 2011 CD har
Knut Född 16/12 1769 i Esmared, Tönnersjö (Halland)
Far Pehrsson, Nils Mor Nilsdotter, Malin
Källa: Tönnersjö C:1
John
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« skrivet: 2013-08-19, 16:43 »
Hej Sökning av Svensk Lokalhistorisk Databas http://www.lokalhistoria.nu/ med Marieberg är av intresse. Till exempel det har att boningshus Marieberg 10 hade soteld 1928-02-09. Och kanske tar kontakt med föreningen Gamla halmstad http://www.gamlahalmstad.se/ mvh John
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« skrivet: 2013-07-27, 15:26 »
Hi Only idly browsing, but having spent many happy vacations going around the old mine fields in that region, though not Dalkarsberget. I googled and found http://www.viker.net/naringar/gruvor/dalkarlsberg.htm In swedish so you will have to suffer Google Translate for the meaning, but just the drawings and dates give an idea of the undertaking. Impressive! John
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« skrivet: 2013-07-27, 15:07 »
Hej
Han finns i Sveriges dödbok ......
Eriksson, Stig Percy
Finsta 5441 762 00 Rimbo
Död 2/11 1981.
Kyrkobokförd (1980) i Skederid, Norrtälje kn (Stockholms län, Uppland). Mantalsskriven (1980) på samma ort.
Född 23/4 1923 i Husby-Lyhundra (Stockholms län, Uppland).
Gift man (18/3 1950)
och gravar.se har
Stig Percy Eriksson
Födelsedatum: 1923-01-23
Avliden: 1981-11-02
Gravsattdatum: 1981-11-14
Ort: Finsta
Kyrkogård: Skederids Kyrkogård
Församling: Rimbo Pastorat Gravnummer: Sk 2 45, 46 Del: GA 2
med
Margit Alice Viola Eriksson
Födelsedatum: 1915-12-26
Avliden: 2002-06-01
Gravsattdatum: 2002-07-19
Ort: Riala
Kyrkogård: Skederids Kyrkogård
Församling: Rimbo Pastorat Gravnummer: Sk 2 45, 46 Del: GA 2
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2013-07-23, 20:08 »
Hej ! Från Svar, Halmstad AI:38 Volym 1879-1882 har Rotarna 0-117B, dvs i staden, inte Öster, Väster, Södra eller Norra förstaden. Och från Halmstad 100 cd, finns nr 111 i stadens Västra roten, Halmkärven 3, Brogatan 12 idag. 1925 Fastighetskalender på cd:n har detsamma. Se också http://www.gamlahalmstad.se/index.php/halmstads-historia/kartor-oever-halmstad mvh John
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« skrivet: 2013-05-21, 15:01 »
Hej
Från 1890 Folkräkning, levde 1:sta Roten, Falkenberg
Larsson, Johan Fredrik 1850 F f. Östraby, Malmöhuslän
Bengtsdotter, Susanna Albertina 1845 M f. Falkenberg
(Barn), Anna Elisabeth 1873 Ch
(Barn), Selma Johanna 1876 Ch
(Barn), Axel Fredrik 1878 Ch
(Barn), Alma Josefina 1885 Ch
(Barn), Oskar Engelbrekt 1886 Ch
(Barn), Martin Amandus 1889 Ch
Alla barn f. Falkenberg
mvh John
(Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2013-05-21 15:02)
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« skrivet: 2013-05-20, 21:59 »
Hej igen !
Karolina f.1879 Tygelsjö finns inte i 1880 Folkräkningen, men med sökning just lite vidare (dom född 1829 i Bunkeflo) ser jag följande
Levde Hyllie N:o 17 1880
Trulsson, Jöns 1829 f Bunkeflo
Larsdotter, Hanna 1829 f Eskilstorp
Far och mor men utan barn
Så Trulsson eller Fransson ? Jag har ingen aning !
mvh
John
(Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2013-05-20 22:01)
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« skrivet: 2013-05-20, 20:24 »
Hej
Levde Bunkeflo Nr.14, från 1890 Folkräkning
Fransson, Jöns f.1829 Bunkeflo
Larsdotter, Hanna f.1829 Eskilstorp
(Barn), Karolina f.1879 Tygelsjö
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2013-05-13, 13:28 »
Thanks Anne-Carin. I had not absorbed all the detail. The furnace is a bit bigger than I had envisaged, though with mull-timmer construction, perhaps not so large. My point about relatively limited ore availability stands. No iron ore mines exist is South Sweden. My personal interest is from both having visited most of the iron related sites of Bergslagen, and in now visiting Örkelljunga itself quite frequently. I note the Commune web site adds ...... excavation finds from the construction of the new highway and Östra Spång is in fact close by the relatively new E4/24 road interchange ! Just personal interest.
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« skrivet: 2013-05-13, 10:26 »
A last word. My interpretation is that we have a farm named in the 1600s when iron was produced in the neighbourhood, so itself a likely site of a furnace sometime in those years.
And about the scale of production. I raised my eyebrows at the large (stor) blast furnace and large scale of production referred to in the reference. This is surely relative, and in this region could never have involved the large hyttor of Bergslagen. Purely that it was lake and bog ore that was available, small lumps of ore painstakingly raked out of bogs and recovered from lake bottoms. A very limited supply. So rather small scale, a seasonal occupation in a farming region ?
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« skrivet: 2013-05-12, 21:27 »
Sven-Ove
But that was much earlier than 1684. Why do you say that ? Read the paper Blästbruk under 1500-1600-tal i Östra Spång (Google it) and the other paper to see what was happening when. That was the end of the 1600s and perhaps 6 km from Järnbläst.
John
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« skrivet: 2013-05-12, 19:27 »
Karen Your järnbläst site is referred to on p.102 of http://www.sydsvenskarkeologi.se/pdf/jarnets-roll-webb.pdf which is a fascinating and detailed paper I shall have to go through at my leisure. The diagrams etc are a treat! All about iron working in South Sweden in prehistoric and historic times. So there is no doubt that iron working was carried out there. My first Googling of järn bläst örkelljunga found in the first reference given, the phrase translated A such example is the large scale iron manufacture in a large blast furnace in Östra Spång, Örkelljunga parish, Skåne, which took place in the 15 and 16 hundreds. The actual investigation was at Raä 6:1 or Östra Spång 6:1 in Örkelljunga parish around 4 km E of the town centre by my rough checking. An idea of the date and one place. John
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« skrivet: 2013-05-04, 20:21 »
Gwen
A gentle hint - you can use the buttons in the block at the top of the text entry box to get Swedish vowel characters showing correctly. The preview screen must have shown you that these were being rendered in a garbled manner.
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« skrivet: 2013-04-09, 21:43 »
Hej Lars-Åke !
Olu Persdotter levde 1880 som änka.
Persdotter, Olu Fattighjon
f. 1808 i Hörby (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
Änka, ensam i familjen
Ousbyholm, Hörby (Malmöhus län, Skåne)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2013-04-08, 14:00 »
Johan
You can go back further to the birth of the first child at Breås, Morup in 1845, so there is a definite Morup connection and you can look in hfl there at that time.
Nilsson, Carl Petter Född 7/3 1845 i Breås, Morup (Halland)
Far Andersson, Nils Christian dräng Mor Carlsdotter, Magdalena 26 år
John
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« skrivet: 2013-04-05, 19:26 »
Hej
Om Ulf Per Inge Bengtsson
Hallands Postens arkiv på internetet Torsdagen 30 maj 1963 har att sjuåring Ulf Bengtsson dog på Gullbrandstorp station på onsdagen. Pojken komm framför ett godståg.
Mera kommer via privat meddelande.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2013-04-05, 13:34 »
Hej
Om Alexandra, vad finns är att hon var född 24/6 1911 i Polen. Och din mormor vet ingenting mera om släkten ?
Om Ulf Per Inge, Sveriges Dödbok har
Bengtsson, Ulf Per Inge Frisagård 1:6
Död 29/5 1963.
Kyrkobokförd i Harplinge, Harplinge kn (Hallands län, Halland).
Född 14/8 1955 i Harplinge (Hallands län, Halland).
Pojke under 18 år.
Kanske du skulle ta kontakt med Pastorat i Harplinge. harplinge.pastorat@svenskakyrkan.se
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2013-04-05, 10:22 »
Hej
Amanda Kristina med far Anders Gustaf Westerberg, mor Severina Albertina och fem syskon finns i Plönninge, Harplinge i 1904. Med syster Elfrida Kristina f.1896-03-23 i Kvibille.
John
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« skrivet: 2013-04-04, 18:42 »
Hej !
Från Hallandsbefolkning CD finns
Tage Wallentin Född 26/1 1911 i Lynga N 2, Harplinge (Halland)
Döpt 5/3 1911
Far Bengtsson, Nils Peter Stenhuggare, 1883-02-19
Mor Westerberg, Amanda Kristina 1881-10-05
Far har anor mest från Harplinge socken.
Mors farfar och morfar var båtsmän från Askome.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2013-03-24, 14:57 »
Hej !
I 1880 finns en Anna Britta Andersdotter i Drängsered med 4 barn.
Andersdotter, Anna Britta Inhysespiga
f. 1843 i Torestorp (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
Ogift kvinna, mor i familjen
Hönhult N:o 1 Drängsered (Hallands län, Halland)
(Barn), Augusta Karolina 1867 Barn
(Barn), Augusta Bernhardina 1870 Barn
(Barn), Oskar Leopold 1877 Barn
(Barn), Karl Fritiof 1880 Barn
Mest sannoligt henne.
mvh
John
(Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2013-03-24 14:59)
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« skrivet: 2013-03-16, 19:56 »
Hej Catrin !
Kristina Svensdotter född 23 nov 1827
Du har Kristinas föräldrar som
Erland Olofsson (Olafsson) född: 1745 avled 1819 i Halland
Elna Larsson född 1769 avled 1818 i Ränneslöv.
Så Erland och Elna levde inte i 1827 ! Du har någonting fel !
John
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« skrivet: 2013-03-01, 12:02 »
Hej Christina !
Laura Rosquist på Ancestry har Sven Elof, hustru Anna Bengtsdotter, syster Inger och föräldrar i hennes släkt träd. Hon har att han tåg namnet Sam Eriksson i USA och att han dog 1924-04-17 i Ellis, Trego, Kansas, USA.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-11-06, 10:26 »
Hej igen !
Johan Peter Född 23/11 1869 i Tönnersjö 2, Tönnersjö (Halland)
Far Knutsson, Johannes Åbo
Mor Johansdotter, Elna 27 år
Knutsson, Johannes Dräng, 1838 Hyltan
Johansdotter, Elna Piga, 1842 Tönnersjö
Lysning 30/4 1867
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-11-06, 10:09 »
Hej
Johanna Petronilla Född 7/3 1840 i Snöstorp, Snöstorp (13) Döpt 15/3 1840
Far Andersson, Sven Petter
Mor Jacobsdoter, Ingerd 29 år
Johansson, Johanna Petronella Född 7/3 1840
Snöstorp 6 Död 31/3 1924 i Snöstorp (Halland)
Dödsorsak: Hjärtförlamning
Henric Född 13/11 1840 i Snöstorp, Snöstorp (13) Döpt 15/11 1840
Far Andersson, Elias Åbo
Mor Andersdoter, Pernilla 39 år
Så här du har ganske mycket om föräldrar, när de föddes och avled och Josefinas närmaste släkt.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-11-06, 09:56 »
Hej
Årnarp finns i Snöstorp och från 1890 folkräkning, har jag funnit en Josefina f1874.
Johansson, Peter 1845 F
Svensd:r, Johanna Petronella 1840 M
Henriksson, Sven Pet. 1868 Ch
(Barn), Johan 1869 Ch
(Barn), Anna Matilda 1872 Ch
(Barn), Josefina 1874 Ch
(Barn), Karl 1877 Ch
(Barn), Henning 1879 Ch
(Barn), Elfrida 1882 Ch
Och från Hallands befolkning CD, en förklaring
Josefina Född 12/12 1874 i Snöstorp 6, Snöstorp (13) Döpt 17/12 1874
Far Eliasson, Henrik Åbo, 34 år
Mor Svensdotter, Johanna Petronella 34 år
Eliasson, Henric 1840 Snöstorp 6
Sven Petersdotter, Johanna Petr. 1840 Snöstorp Nr 2
Vigda 26/10 1865 i Snöstorp (Halland)
Eliasson, Henrik Ålder: 38 år Snöstorp 6
Död 29/10 1879 i Snöstorp (Halland) Dödsorsak: Stelkramp
Johansson, Peter Torp, 1845-03-07 Skedala
Svensdotter, Johanna Petronella Enka, 1840-03-07 Snöstorp Nr 6
Vigda 8/4 1881 i Snöstorp (Halland)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-10-23, 17:57 »
Hej !
På Disbyt finns upplysningar att föräldrar till Kristina Ingvarsdotter f 1849 Våxtorp, var Ingvar Persson f 1825 Våxtorp, d 1903 Våxtorp, och Johanna Svensdotter f 1828 Våxtorp, d 1862 Våxtorp, v 1848 Ränneslöv.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-10-23, 14:17 »
Hej !
Från Hallands befolkning 2011 CD
Nilsson, Hans Peter
Född 20/3 1852 i Korsvadshuset Ränneslöv, Ränneslöv (Halland) Döpt 28/3 1852
Far Pålsson, Nils, Torpare, 1819-04-20 Laholm
Mor Nilsdotter, Pernilla, Pigan, 1823-12-28 Skummeslöv
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-10-14, 11:28 »
Kristina
Kanske komm ihåg att Google Översätt finns.
Vad jag undrade över var om någon visste något om Albin och Agdas släktingar i Usa?
What I was wondering was if anyone knew anything about Albin and Agda's relatives in the United States?
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« skrivet: 2012-10-13, 12:32 »
Kanske någon kann adress hennes fråga Can anyone help me to find ancesters to ... born in Sweden som översätter till Kan någon hjälpa mig att hitta förfäders till... född i Sverige (Everyone makes spelling mistakes from time to time)
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« skrivet: 2012-10-13, 11:40 »
Frågan är absolut självklart. Moderator USA har skrivit rubriken som står nu, inte Kristina, som skrivit frågan första gången under rubriken Discussions in English, General Questions, Jakobsson, Nils Albin. Bara att Kristina har ingen aning varifrån i Sverige (both born in Sweden) hennes anor har kommit.
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« skrivet: 2012-10-13, 10:46 »
Självklart från rubriken och från första satsen, frågar Kristina om anor till Nils Albin Jakobsson och Agda Maria Andersson. Ancestors = anor.
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« skrivet: 2012-09-20, 14:17 »
I thought village shoemakers were all essentially self employed. In fact often itinerant and listed under Sockens slut.
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« skrivet: 2012-09-16, 12:41 »
I am very sorry now that I suggested that he was a smith. It was really only an attempt at an explanation. But from my own observations (and I am very happy to be corrected) village folk at that time (1880 and in Halland) kept their patronymic names unless they were of some real importance or had a skilled trade. I was looking for that trade. Twenty years later it was different. It was also not the same in towns. Townfolk were somewhat more likely to have individual names.
I have searched my Halland Befolkning CD and looked at the occupation of those with the name Bergström over the years. All trades were covered by that name so if the father had a trade, it could have been anything. But I have read the above postings carefully, there is no suggestion either that the father had a special trade or ever used the name Bergström ?
Since Jonathan would surely like some rational explanation I concur with Ing-Marie. That the girls when emigrating did not want the common name Svensson and seized the chance to change. I see from Disbyt and from the 1880 census that there were Bergströms in Blidsberg in earlier years so they might have heard the name and liked it enough to adapt it as their own. I also concur with the link of Bergström and Blidberg through berg. I like to think that my ancestor Per Segerlund took the name because the family farm was Lunden, incorporating lund (grove) into his name.
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« skrivet: 2012-09-15, 14:56 »
I had since posting rather guessed the younger sister was likely the Selma Albertina who can be found in the 1880 census just where Mats has put above. Family there is
Andersson, Sven 1834 Far
Johansdotter, Anna Kajsa 1836 Mor
(Barn), Selma Albertina 1866 Barn
(Barn), Hulda Natalia 1869 Barn
(Barn), Ada Josefina 1871 Barn
(Barn), Enok Gideon 1873 Barn
(Barn), Karl Simeon 1876 Barn
(Barn), Ester Paulina 1878 Barn
So the clue to Bergström as I had originally wondered might be in the location Smedslyckan. Father a smith, even if listed as Lägenhetsägare ? It would fit.
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« skrivet: 2012-09-15, 11:05 »
Jonathan
I have given you minimal amount of information on her is an understatement. A reference linked to the first question would be the only way to help. Also doesn't the parish have a birth register you can check?
Similarly on the second point, you only give enough information to make a general comment. So. Does the husforhor give any clues? Probably. Are the two names possible? Yes. For example if the father was some kind of craftsman, his patronymic name would be Sven Andersson and his full name Sven Andersson Bergström, but he would also be Sven Bergström. His daughter Maria would be Maria Svensdotter or Maria Bergström.
John
(Meddelandet ändrat av johnb 2012-09-15 11:20)
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« skrivet: 2012-08-16, 09:36 »
A small comment on what Bo says above. Though young folk (except in towns) might work on farms in the parish (or sometimes an adjacent parish) that were not their home/parental farm, the girl/young woman involved would very often be married in her home parish and from the parental home, if the parents lived. Thus her abode as written would more likely be the parental home. For the man that did not happen, it was where he lived. (From my own observations)
John
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« skrivet: 2012-07-21, 10:22 »
Anna-Carins description above helps two observations I have noted about country tailors, and also shoemakers. Those of both trades are often listed in hfl in a final section under Sockens slut, of no fixed abode; rather they often travelled continuously about the parish working at the farms where they were making clothes. And secondly the phrases sockenskräddare and sockenskomakare show their status as appointed/recognised by the parish.
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« skrivet: 2012-07-20, 21:26 »
Your question about the use of dräng is easy to answer. In the vast majority of early records I have come across, dräng simply means batchelor, unmarried. So he was an unmarried tailor living with his mother in the hfl and on moving, and an unmarried tailor when he married. It was normal to make clear in marriage records that the groom was a dräng and the bride a piga so both unmarried if this was the case. (In neither case did this mean farmworker or maid in the employment sense, whether they were or weren't.) The alternative of course would be widower, widow, often the case since it needed couples to run households especially in country districts and younger widowers, widows very often remarried as soon as it was possible.
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« skrivet: 2012-06-16, 10:16 »
Just shows you can actually learn things yourself when posting on here to help others. In my case that The Central Soldiers Register http://soldat.dis.se/soldater.php has boatsman ! I typed in the random (and when first encountered, unbelievable) name Papegoja and saw 10 with that name. (Why unbelievable ? After all the Perssons etc, I had followed, someone called Parrot ?!)
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« skrivet: 2012-06-15, 10:05 »
Soldier or boatsman (rotebåtsman). Some areas including parishes in Halland provided boatsman to the navy, and in much of the wikipedia article referenced you can see that a parallel system to that for soldiers was used. So Modig, Frimodig and Saktmodig are boatsmans names in certain Halland parishes. If trying to trace a soldier/boatsman, look at all records since Sven Nilsson becoming Sven Modig when indentured may at times get the fuller name of Sven Nilsson Modig. Whether the name was kept or reverted on retirement is another variable.
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« skrivet: 2012-06-15, 09:38 »
A minor disagreement and perhaps clarification. (English date mm/dd yyyy, Swedish date dd/mm yyyy). The prefered format today is yyyy-mm-dd.
What you term the English date is frequently encountered in the USA, but it is never used in the UK. To the best of my knowledge, dd/mm/yy and dd/mm/yyyy are the most used in the UK today, / or -. The month can come first only if the first 3 letters of the month are used eg Jun 15, 2012, when there can be no confusion, and this is not unusual, though I submit that 15 Jun 2012 is again most used, note with the full year.
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« skrivet: 2012-06-09, 18:41 »
It's very easy to make mistakes using apostrophes. See http://www.bristol.ac.uk/arts/exercises/grammar/grammar_tutorial/index.htm sections B.7 and C for some help in getting it right. Having one when it's inappropriate is the worst mistake and can make some folks really cross. I agree with both Chris and Thomas. There is a generation issue now apparent. But then most of us doing family history research are older.
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« skrivet: 2012-06-09, 14:33 »
Hej!
As an English speaker I also agree completely Att använda apostrof är inte slarvigare än att skriva hela meningar, och båda är precis lika korrekta. Det som brukar väcka mest anstöt är att blanda ihop it's och its, your och you're osv.
For Ann-Mari above. Starting with Dear .... is still the correct way with letter writing (on paper), and a safe and polite way always with any first contact ... but electronic messages are almost always seen as less formal, often from the very first message. The way your contact replies now means your communications are seen as more personal, and to continue to use Dear... could seem stilted, even for folks of our ages (I am 67).
To be safe, I recommend you continue to start your communications with Hi or the persons name. Many might still find messages without a Hi at the start and a Best Wishes at the end a bit unfriendly. (So I have done just that here) But do not be offended if your contacts send shortened messages if the content continues to be useful and friendly. We are all a little different.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2012-06-02, 10:00 »
The Eniro map pulled up for Örbäck, SLÖINGE at scale 10 shows churches (a cross) in Abild (north west) and Årstad (west). Abild is both the nearer at about 3 km and was at the time their parish church. The churches now in Susedalens församling (parish, the modern enlarged one) are Abild, Asige, Årstad, Slöinge and Eftra. A range of contacts can be seen on http://mildmedia.se/sloinge/?pg=102 but I suggest you contact the parish office susedalens.forsamling@svenskakyrkan.se for help as to open times. Some churches are open to visit in the day, but for others - I have stopped at Eftra church a number of times and never found it open. I assume you have looked up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abild . You can see pictures at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Abilds_kyrka (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2012-06-02 10:09)
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« skrivet: 2012-06-01, 19:55 »
Type Örbäck, SLÖINGE into Var on www.eniro.se. You can zoom in and out on the map. (I suspect you were pointed to this link from asking elsewhere earlier this year !) J
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« skrivet: 2012-03-24, 20:32 »
Hej Sandra
Det ser ut att hon bodde med föräldrar till 1875, Brynestorp Nr.1, (Kvibille AI:6 sid 43/44) och var ensam i Tönnersjö (AI:4 sid 31) Skolhuset Boarp lärarinan Johanna Greta Olsdotter Åkerblad från 1875-11-12. Så hon tåg namnet som lärarina i 1875-11 när hon kom till Tönnersjö.
Som du kanske vet redan, hon gift sig i 1878.
Johansson, Anders f.1852 Tönnersjö / Åkerblad, Johna Greta Småskollärarinna, 1853 Boarp
Vigda 2/11 1878 i Tönnersjö (Halland) Lysning 15/9 1878
och bodde 1880 i Öppinge N:o 2 Snöstorp.
Johansson, Anders 1852 Far Hemmansägare
Åkerblad, Johanna 1853 Mor Gift kvinna, mor i familjen
(Barn), Ida 1879
Men som du sa också, det var en familjen Åkerblad med Sven Peter Åkerblad f.1855 Kvibille, far Folkskollärare Johannes Åkerblad , mor Anna Christina Johansdotter. Sven Petter finns som Folkskol lärare i Skolhuset Övraby i 1880.
Kanske Johanna Greta tyckte om namnet för att Johannes Åkerblad var hennes lärare ?
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-03-12, 16:56 »
Hej !
Halmstad AI:48 har Gerda Teresia som Amandas oäkta dotter. Addres var Hattfabriken i Halmstad. Amanda gift sig i 1902 som det står i Hallands Befolknings CD.
Alm, Alfrid Paridon stenhuggare, 1875-06-09 N 73 A ö.r.
Magnidotter, Amanda piga, 1865-02-07 N 73 A ö.r.
Vigda 27/12 1902 i Halmstad (Halland)
Lysning 23/11 1902, 30/11 1902, 7/12 1902
Var Alfrid Gerda Teresias far ? Vem vett ? Mor gift sig tio år efter Gerda Teresias födelse.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2012-03-01, 09:58 »
A simple question to ask is how have you identified her as an apprentice, since most of us will understand the Swedish term lärling as applying to one learning to be a smith, potter, or other craft trade. After serving an apprenticeship, the lärling became a gessäll (craftsman) and when at the top of his trade, a mästare. From your description, I see your ancestor as an indentured servant. Everyone had their personal details recorded annually and you should go to Roots in English http://www.genealogi.se/roots/ and read under Church Records, Household Examination Rolls. These existed from the early 1800s and almost all can be found to inspect on eg ArchivDigital. You will need however to identify in which parish priests household she worked. John ps I see that Swedish Roots abbreviations has gessäll as apprentice which is incorrect according to all searches that I can make. See for example http://www.hantverksrad.se/gesall-och-mastarbrev/ (Meddelandet ändrat av JohnB 2012-03-01 12:15)
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« skrivet: 2012-02-02, 15:39 »
Hi
The bad news is that the death index does not show occupation, but does show name, and places/dates of birth/death and some marriage details.
I see your profile says you are in fact looking for two named Gustaf Edvard Nilsson, and the name combination seems (surprisingly) quite unusual. Were they repslagare? To find them in Stockholm, you can find burials at hittagraven.stockholm.se and some occupations are shown once you have the name. It is the earlier censuses that might help you most since they do show occupations. I have had a quick look in the 1880 and 1890 censuses which I have on cd with no luck from a quick glance, but the father and son can likely be found with more information. You can try searching all 4 1880-1910 censuses with name and/or occupation on Svar as a best bet, possible on a short time subscription, not expensive.
John
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« skrivet: 2012-01-24, 10:06 »
Hi
Its a problem that regional differences exit. My research is mainly in Halland which is where I can comment on. On wives names when there is a family name, it has seemed to me to depend on status. These comments are for before the late 1800s. For a priests family say, all family members, wife, children might take the family name, though for some children, they would loose it if they lost status, for example a daughter marrying a local farmer would revert to the appropriate ..dotter name. Where the man is a craftsman, the wife and children were most likely not to take the family name, only a son if he takes up his fathers trade eg as a smith.
Late 1800s and on, the wife taking the Stenman name would become normal. When the wifes name was Anna Helena Johansson, my guess would be that the husbands patronymic name was Johansson. Only if her name was Johansdotter, then her father would be a Johan. You are currently looking in the transition period of time and also with a family name, so for both reasons, its a bit unpredictable and confusing. Before then its more predictable.
I dont know about searchable sources, but Arkivdigital online has Nederkalix parish registers exist from 1770 to 1899 (with also one earlier register) and birth m d registers from 1656 to 1894. You can buy registers on microfiche from Svar, purchase online. How intelligible the old ones are I cannot answer, since older ones can require knowledge of old writing styles to understand. There is usually one set of registers for a parish.
John
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« skrivet: 2012-01-23, 10:17 »
Hi A good overview is http://web.comhem.se/~u31263678/genealogy/Names.pdf by Ingela. She notes that in towns family names became more common from the 1870/80s while in the countryside it was later. Its one reason I rely on the 1880 and 1890 censuses for person searching in that son/dotter naming continued pretty consistently up to then. Around the turn of the century, children increasingly took the fathers last name as their last name. So your answer is in the date. My guess is that if Gustaf Jonsson was born between 1880 and 1900 his father might have been either Jonsson or Jon xxxson. Before that I would definitely expect his father to be Jon xxxson with his sister if he had one having the last name Jonsdotter. It actually makes tracing generations much easier, especially in that there were conventions about first child named after paternal grandparent, next after maternal grandparent etc. And once you have got the hang of wives names being xxxdotter and not changing on marriage, it is much more easy identifying them. Family names like Stenman were taken up by ordinary folk from the late 1800s in Sweden, and before that when status went up. See what Chris wrote in http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/2450/171782.html?1218287661 about Segerlund. That name was taken up in the family by a farmers son Per Svensson around 1780 when he became a Strandridare, a form of coastguard/customs official. Notably, when his grandsons were young apprentices, the local priest recorded them by their son names, a note making it clear that he regarded their use of Segerlund as pretentious. So while some of these old family names can be traced back to immigrant trades like smiths, for most Swedish folks with such names, you can trace back to the generation where the name was adapted when the user gained some profession or status meriting it. Hope that helps. John ps Names may not signify much, though naming after landscape features or farm names was common. The -lund in Segerlund likely comes from the farm Lunden where the family lived. I would not read anything special into the name Stenman, though it might just reflect a personal characteristic. (Meddelandet ändrat av JohnB 2012-01-23 11:11)
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« skrivet: 2012-01-14, 11:46 »
My view is that she was named as hemmadotter (unmarried daughter of the family) when moving away from her home farm, and piga (both meanings of maid) when returning. In early marriage records for country areas, girls were mainly piga or widow, in later records they can be piga or hemmadotter, and the various other terms for farmers daughter become more frequent. Certainly from 1900, girls might well be eg seamstress, and increasingly when including larger villages and towns, servant, home help, factory worker etc are included. My guess on this basis, if they were town dwellers was that she did domestic work of some kind.
If you want an idea of what a piga did on a farm, read the first of Vilhelm Mobergs emigrant books, describing farm life very graphically, where a piga did much more indoor work on balance while the dräng only did the outside animal and crop work. Farm life was difficult and sons and daughters and farmhands together were kept hard at work in all seasons. I disagree completely with Ingela in that certainly in Halland, the very few girls who were called jungfru at marriage were those of higher status, daughters of eg priests or professional people. (Confirmed by examination of the over 125,000 marriage posts from 1680-1935 on the Hallands befolkning 2011 CD). By contrast the in and utflyttning längder have long lists of those named as piga and dräng, nearly all farmworkers, moving from farm to farm to work in later years.
John
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« skrivet: 2012-01-13, 19:01 »
Hi Scott
Anna-Carin above has the meaning of hemmadotter, which for me has often cropped up in marriage records signifying the woman was living at home unmarried with her parents. In marriage records, the designation piga is also frequent, and there it always simply means unmarried girl. The word is like the English maid however in having two parallel meanings, young unmarried girl and maid servant (as in housemaid, milkmaid etc). For completion, the Swedish word dräng similarly has 2 parallel meanings, bachelor and farm hand. In both cases the context usually tells you which applies, and it can often signify both meanings of course.
In marriage records the bride and groom are often described as piga and dräng, both then unmarried, no other meaning implied. Household registers by contrast will list first the members of the family, then the farmhands, with female servants being a piga, and the male farmworkers being a dräng.
John
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« skrivet: 2012-01-08, 11:37 »
Hej Helen !
Från Karl Gustav AI:3 s.11
Torpet Lunhult (Lönnhult)
Klock And Larsson 1785
Christina Svensd 1780
Son Sven 13 1/9
Nils 17 5/5
Anders 25 16/2
Dot Kerstin 15 1/7
Inger 19 22/2
Och från Hallands befolkning CD
Larsson, Anders Klockaren Strömma Torp
Svensdotter, Kristina Pigan Lihult
Vigda 21/4 1811 i Karl Gustav (Halland)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2011-12-22, 10:03 »
Hej Sven-Åke!
Från 1880 Folkräkningen.
Jonasson Slätt, Noach 1857 Far
Eliasdotter, Anna Beata 1858 Mor
(Barn), Johan Edvard 1879 Barn
Vi ser att Johan Edvard var Johan Edvard Noachsson Slätt, så kanske Britt-Marie har funnit en av din fars farbror.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2011-12-20, 10:23 »
I agree
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« skrivet: 2011-11-21, 17:26 »
Lite till från Hallands Befolkning 2011 CD
Vigda 2/7 1859 i Frillesås (Halland)
Börjesson, Andreas Dräng, 31 år Nr:4 Kyrkebyn
Johansdtr, Anna Lena Pigan, 18 år Nr:1 Rya
Albertina Född 7/5 1867 i Frillesås Kyrkebyn nr 1
Johan Anton Född 10/9 1869 i Frillesås Kyrkebyn nr 4
Börjesson, Andreas Ålder: 43 år 1 mån 26 dag
Död 5/12 1870 i Frillesås Kyrkobyn nr 3
Andreas och Anna Lena levde sannoligt alltid på Kyrkebyn i Frillesås.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2011-11-20, 13:00 »
Hej !
I 1890 folkräkningen Anna Lena är ensam med 5 barn på Musared Nr.1
Johansdotter, Anna Lena 1840 M
(Barn), Albertina 1867 Ch
(Barn), Oscar Vilhelm 1870 Ch
(Barn), Carl Emil 1880 Ch
(Barn), Alida Bernh.dina 1882 Ch
(Barn), Anders Emil 1885 Ch
Anna Lena är hemmansegare, och det står mannen i Amerika. Hoppas att det är också av intresse.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2011-11-20, 11:34 »
Hej
Från 1880 folkräkningen.
Musared N:o 1 Frillesås (Hallands län, Halland)
Andersson, Emanuel 1837 Far
Johansdotter, Anna Lena 1840 Mor
(Barn), Oscar Wilhelm 1870 Barn
(Barn), Carl Emil 1880 Barn
(Barn), Berndt August 1860 Barn
(Barn), Johannes 1862 Barn
(Barn), Carl Johan 1865 Barn
(Barn), Johan Anton 1869 Barn
(Barn), Albertina 1867 Barn
Det stämmer med en Carl Johan som tåg släktnamnet Andersson, far också Andersson och mor Anna (He)lena Jo(ha)nsson. Bara att far var Emanuel, inte Anders, men det ser ut att du har familjen.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2011-09-23, 10:26 »
Hi
Nov 19 first calling of banns, Dec 26th date of marriage ?
Craftsman smith Eric Svedmark and widow Anna Stina Falk, born Söderholm, both at No.262 (same property).
He born in Svedvi to parents homeowner Anders Andersson and wife Anna Greta ...... (name not known) in Tuna, he moved here in the year 1830.
She born in Åker to parents Regimental musician Anders Johan Söderholm and wife Maria Jönsdotter in Hörby (?). Previously married to workman Lars Peter Falk who died 30 March 1847 and left 4 children. Some details of his bouppteckning (probate record follows)
41 and 62 their respective ages ?
Gosh, if only all marriage records were so detailed and easy to read !
John
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« skrivet: 2011-08-29, 11:14 »
Hej
Ättlingar till son Jakob Friedrich Molin finns på Disbyt
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2011-08-25, 10:55 »
Hi
Here is the info about Tekla from the Swedish Death Index, most of which you know
Jansson f. Birath, Tekla Maria
Vidar3
Död 3/9 1944.
Kyrkobokförd i Skövde (Skaraborgs län, Västergötland)
Född 19/6 1881 i Habo (Jönköpings län, Västergötland).
Gift kvinna (27/10 1914).
And using the last name and death date to search, here is her husband
Jansson, Axel
Tomtegården
Död 12/12 1951.
Kyrkobokförd i Skövde (Skaraborgs län, Västergötland)
Född 21/10 1878 i Öglunda (Skaraborgs län,Västergötland).
Änkling (3/9 1944).
So there you have birth and death places and dates and marriage date as recorded. Perhaps someone else can look up about any children
John
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« skrivet: 2011-08-15, 09:39 »
Hi Linda !
That makes perfect sense. And it removes any doubts that she really was the daughter of the previously deceased friend of the farmer. (Others have made different attempts at identifying her - it confirms my conclusion as to who she was, where now overwhelming evidence has been accumulated).
Also I now see how to relate the information on förmyndare and barnegods from other bouppteckningar. Thank you very much indeed for giving that insight.
John
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« skrivet: 2011-08-14, 12:30 »
Its strange that while barnegods regularly crop up (at least where I have been looking) that no clear description/explanation of the practice of gifting these apparently exists. I have been looking on a regular basis.
John
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« skrivet: 2011-08-14, 11:01 »
This is a question that I have wanted an answer to for a long time, and quite specifically to know how it came about that a piga becomes named to receive these barnegods, and what they are, and what conditions are attached to the inheritance. I have studied many bouppteckningar from Halland. A member of the Halland society some years ago pulled out the information from many bouppteckningar in the region and these extracts and a database on CD are key sources saving much effort for anyone searching to find surviving relatives of any deceased. In almost all data from bouppteckningar that I have seen (this includes originals, but the extracts seem very accurate), the piga getting the barnegods was not a close relative, and also puzzlingly, a time can be attached.
For one of particular interest, we see innestående barnegods för Anna Svensdotter i 6 år. Anna was then 30 years old, the daughter of a deceased friend of the farmer from my research, and unrelated, and the same or following year she married the farmer taking over the farm from the deceased.
So I think there is more to this that Chris has put.
John
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« skrivet: 2011-07-31, 20:19 »
Since both järnbruk and tegelbruk are Works in UK English (Brick Works, Iron Works), works or factory could seem more all embracing. Perhaps Mill Owner in olden days, Factory Owner in more modern times.
But then my understanding is that patron implies someone grander; in the days of the rural järnbruk, the owner may have owned surrounding land with timber supplies for charcoal and also water rights, plus he provided housing for his workers and families, justifying why my dictionary offers squire as a translation for patron. An old English squire owned an estate , (land with a big house, farm, workers cottages) so a larger amount of land than just that on which a mill or factory building stood. So there is no complete translation for Brukspatron conveying the exact sense.
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« skrivet: 2011-07-23, 21:10 »
Hej! Alla fastigheterna i stadskärnans rotar hade en nummer, som finns i mantals- och husförhörslängder, och numrering på 1797 kartan finns i alla församlingsböker till 1922. Det är möjligt att 124.1 var Västra Roten 124 dvs Klammerdamm 122/Brogatan 22 eller Klammerdamm 122/Hantverkgatan 19. GamlaHalmstad förening( www.gamlahalmstad.se) hade på webplatsen en dokument Fastigheterna i stadskärnans fyra rotar, men inte längre. Kanske du tar kontakt med föreningen och/eller köper Halmstad 100, en CD med många vackra kartor plus husförhör AI:43 - AI:50 i en databas. Men jag har det, och bara på AI:45 finns Amborg Josefina Johansson med Adelina Georgina Mauritsson, hennes oäkta dotter. De bor på Norra förstaden No 59. (Om Carl Martin Johansson var hennes far, så hela släkten bor där också). Jag ser från folkräkningar att hon finns ensam i Halmstad 1880, och i Malmö 1890 med 2 oäkta barn till. Jag hoppas att det hjälper. mvh John
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« skrivet: 2011-07-19, 18:02 »
Hi
I have now following Vinnies last post re-checked the first UK 1911 census and a very clearly written Hanna Emilia Janson is living in Hampshire as a servant aged 29. This makes her born between April 1881 and April 1882. And I have found yet another but hopefully THE Hanna Emilia as below in the 1890 census, though father not Nils and a shoemaker, not farmer, but with his own house. (Which was possibly a smallholding ie he grew crops for the family ?) I feel rather embarrassed at not finding and including her previously. The 1901 Hanna Jansen might be someone different, and I have messaged Vinnie separately.
Place of residence Söpple, Stavnäs, Värmland
Jansson, Johan 1851 Born 1851 Värmskog, Värmland. Hemmanseg, Skomakare (Homeowner, shoemaker)
Larsdotter, Anna Kajsa Born 1855 Stavnäs, Värmland
Hilda Maria Born 1878 Stavnäs
Hanna Emilia Born 1881 Gillberga
Emma Born 1884 Gillberga
Karl Born 1887 Stavnäs
Gustaf Born 1890 Stavnäs
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Jansson, Karl Born 1858 Värmskog, Värmland Skomakare, Brother of Johan, Widower
Perhaps we now ask Lasse if he could work his magic again and check ?
John
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« skrivet: 2011-07-18, 19:28 »
Hi
I guess both of us saw this as a challenge, and the principal option remaining in my view is a search of the 1900 census which I dont have so someone else must do it. The following reflects thoughts from my own personal searching.
To explain naming a bit more (and if anyone wants to slant what follows, feel free). 1890 was right at the end of the time when daughters like Hanna Emilia would automatically have been Nilsdotter, which she most likely would have been for her first years anyway. But by 1900, families were increasingly dropping -dotter names for daughters and further, children often then took the same surname as the father, so just as your posting initially put, very likely all of the family became Jansson (with 2 s's). As an aside, families from that time increasingly took advantage of the freedom to choose a fresh family name, sometimes associated with the farm they lived, but all sorts of reasons could affect the choice of new name. So searching in Sweden on first names and place and date of birth from then become the surest means of identification, though many, especially older families and older folk still chose to keep traditional names.
So to Hanna Emilia. If you look at American immigrants the name changes there could be quite extreme, sometimes starting from how the Castle Gardens/Ellis Island officer wrote down the name from how the immigrant pronounced it. But remember that almost all Swedes could read and write so she would know how her name was written. Hanna and Emilia are proper Swedish names, just Jansson becoming Janson being likely, and in England she was probably in control of what she was called. That you have Janson indicates she took her fathers name. And lastly, Hanna is common but Emilia much less so. Jansson is much less common than the other variants around son-of-Jons/Jöns/Johan, Johannes and more.
Then why did I search variants of the names ? The priests word was law in naming matters; and in earlier years mistakes (transcription errors) in name and dates could and did creep in and then were perpetuated. And while later annual registers were much more consistent, it did still happen that errors were made. Janssons I looked up were also Jonssons in earlier years. Johannessons became shortened to Johansson and then even to Jonsson. Censuses were assembled from data transcribed from parish registers allowing real errors to creep in. And some normalising of names as above may have occured.
So in summary, to me, the data to search on remains with minor variants allowed for, Hanna Emilia Jansson, born probably 1882/3, father Nils Jansson, farmer. And importantly with both Hanna and Emilia found together and probably in that order, and we have already seen that the 1890 search on those parameters give quite a short and handleable list.
My last comment. Sometimes though people definitely existed they got missed from one census but appear on another. Happily the important censuses for you, 1890 and 1900 exist and are complete. 1890 was the best bet, and I just might have missed her. But 1900 is still very worth trying, though she is old enough then to possibly to have gone to work on another farm nearby. 1910 only exists in part on SVAR but she was likely in England then. Anyway, over to someone else.
Regards and good luck, John
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« skrivet: 2011-07-13, 20:57 »
Hi
From the Ellis Island site, Johanna E. Johanson aged 15, arrived 18 Sept 1897, via Southampton, travelling as a servant, last place in Sweden Nydala. The E has been partly added to to appear as Emi then possibly ll. This sounds rather like the Johanna Emilia that Lasse reports above.
Have we still some options left ?
John
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« skrivet: 2011-07-13, 19:27 »
But all is not lost, it quite possible that Johansson could have become Janson in England. We still have 2 families with fathers who were farmers which is an important clue !
John
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« skrivet: 2011-07-13, 17:33 »
Hi
Lasse has of course eliminated that Hanna Emilia (she married and died in Sweden), but facing the challenge, I used the child search facility in the 1890 census using *anna Emilia and Nils J*nsson for all possible birth dates. (The * allows Johanna, Hanna and Anna, and Jansson, Jonsson and Jönsson and some other variants.)
The list of possible children is now very small, and the following covers them as far as I can see.
Adelina Johanna Emilia b. 1883 i Lönneberga (Kalmar län. Smaland)
Father Nils August Johansson, Mjölnare (Miller)
Anna Emilia b. 1882 i Söderhamn (Gävleborgs län, Hälsingland)
Father Nils Jonsson, Sågare (Sawyer)
Anna Emilia b. 1883 i Bäckebo (Kalmar län, Småland)
Father Nils Peter Johansson, Torpare
Johanna Emilia b. 1882 i Laxarby (Älvsborgs län, Dalsland)
Father Nils Johansson, Torpare (Crofter)
Johanna Emilia b. 1883 i Fämebo (Värmlands län, Värmland)
Father Nils Romanus Jansson, Jordbruksarb. (Farmworker)
I rather fancy the very last on the list, and I have not found her death record in Sweden in SDB5. But it now requires some kind person to check the household registers (Församlingsböker) to see whether perhaps the last 3 above are recorded as marrying, emigrating or any other possibility. This should be possible since most of these registers exist to well after your Hanna Emilia married in England. I do not have a copy of the 1900 Swedish census to check.
Whew ! Best of luck !
John
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« skrivet: 2011-07-13, 14:41 »
Hi
I would place the birth year at quite likely 1882 without the +/- tolerance, given the marriage to George E Marsh was February and the census was on 2nd April of the respective years. And using the spellings of Hanna and Emilia as you suggest, the following household comes up in the Swedish 1890 census as being Jansson with a Hanna Emilia. Hanna, Emilia and Jansson together make it possible to narrow the search considerably. Jansson is not as common as Jonsson, Jönsson, Johansson etc and while Nils is the grandfather, the fit otherwise is most interesting.
Jansson, Nils 1828 Father
Olsd:r, Stina 1829 Mother
Nils Johan 1870 Child
Jansson, Jöns 1858 Father
Nilsd:r, Maria Stina 1864 Mother
Hanna Emilia 1882 Child
Johan Teodor 1885 Child
Nils Oskar 1888 Child
Magnuss, Johan Magnus 1873
Johan Magnus Magnusson is probably the farmhand.
Since Jöns Jansson is listed as måg (son in law), Maria Stina Nilsdotter would then be the daughter of Nils Jansson, Torpare (farmer) listed top. Quite curious to have two male Janssons in the household who are not directly blood related !
The family is at
1 S:a Wästrottna
Gräsmark (Värmlands län, Värmland)
This could be a wild shot, but it gets you started.
John
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« skrivet: 2011-06-08, 20:04 »
This was 1874 and I have looked through the WikiRötter articles on here and tried other searches. Banns were a legal requirement at that time replaced by a hindersprovning declaration today to ensure that the couple could legally marry, but was that all ? This was followed in a week to 3(?) months by the marriage itself. I only put this as a contribution, but with a personal interest.
The context is that I have a copy of a trolovning (betrothal) declaration from a church register dated 1852 (an unusual inclusion ?), which I have been told does have even more significance. This 100 word statement confirms that the pair have willingly entered into a promise of marriage and are aware of the legal consequences. Witnesses include the brides brother, mother and uncle.
John
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« skrivet: 2011-06-08, 16:31 »
I stand corrected ! My apologies.
Obs - Ej ledig till äktenskap = Note, not free to marry. But no indication why ?
John.
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« skrivet: 2011-06-08, 10:27 »
Lysning, the banns called in church prior to a marriage taking place. So the second translation becomes clearer if expressed as -
Banns No 23 cancelled by Johan Larsson, after the 2nd time they were announced, since his fiance is found to have another.
He was jilted, nearly at the altar in other words.
I suspect an error in the second translation, possibly now free to marry, but I dont have access to this.
John
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« skrivet: 2011-05-31, 11:00 »
Only glad to help. My best tip so that you are not disappointed when you go is to contact the church wardens of the churches you want to visit to ensure that they are open. Many are open to visit but it is not to be relied on. I think you can work out the contacts for each church from http://www.svenskakyrkan.se/default.aspx?id=651531 All three mentioned in our posts above are on the list. Of course if you are really lucky, they might be able to have somebody there to show you round since July is the holiday month for Sweden. John
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« skrivet: 2011-05-30, 20:03 »
Hej
Från Halmstad AI:45 på Halmstad Befolkning CD. Karolina finns med make skomakeren Nils Svensson f.1847-12-07 Annerstad och Karl Vilhelm vid Norra förstaden No 28 A. Karolina f. 1849 Unnaryd.
De gift sig i Halmstad från Halland Befolkning CD
Svensson, Nils skomakaregesäll, 1847-12-07
Persdotter, Carolina piga, 1849
Vigda 27/12 1885 i Halmstad (Halland) Lysning 1/11 1885
mvh
John
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Annerstad = Önnestad Kristianstads län, Skåne
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« skrivet: 2011-05-27, 20:59 »
I cannot add to the above, and the following was looked up for my own interest really, since I drive very close by these villages every visit I make to Sweden. Just that the equally ancient baptismal churches of Halmstad http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halmstads_kyrka and Sireköpinge http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirek%C3%B6pinge_kyrka are still there and also look worth visiting. Google maps by the way easily locates all the places you mention. Can I mention one very small point, that you take care not to confuse your village of Halmstad, Skåne with the very large town of Halmstad, Halland someway further up the coast. Enjoy your trip. John
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« skrivet: 2011-02-21, 15:28 »
Heather
Having now seen the posting above mine, sent while I was creating mine.... Two points, Ehn is an unusual name so there were not many by that name, a very good point when researching Sweden. But then only to add that the emigration date (1900) and date of birth (1881) I found looked a bit closer to yours. However, the Axel Oskar I found did not die in Sweden, and the wife Mats found looks a match. Just as a hint, if you have any information on occupation and can clarify which was the most likely emigration date, you can make an informed choice.
John
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« skrivet: 2011-02-21, 15:03 »
Heather
First to say that two brothers, both joiners, one being Axel Oskar Ehn, arrived in New York May 1900 according to the Ellis Island site. They were named as being from Tidaholm, part of Baltak parish before 1895. Following this lead, Axel Oskar is found on Släktdata as being born in Daretorp south east of present day Tidaholm 1881-05-13 father Soldat Johan August Ehn, mother Anna Charlotta Karlsdotter, address Paradis, Daretorp. The parents are alone in Daretorp according to the 1880 census, the father born Daretorp (Skaraborgs län, Västergötland) in 1855, the mother in Härja (Skaraborgs län, Västergötland) in 1854. In 1990 they are there with children Axel Oskar 1881, Johan Hjalmar 1884, Hulda Serafia 1886 and Hilda Maria 1890. They are listed as at Paridis soldatboställe (Paradis soldiers dwelling).
Regards
John
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« skrivet: 2011-01-12, 16:52 »
Hej ! Om den CD, se http://hgf.e-butik.se/?artnr=3214001 . Det är så biligt just nu för att en ny CD kommer i nästa månader. Ingen Bengt Palm finns på det. Men hade han också son-namn ? Bara att säger att sökning är kanske omöjligt utan upplysningar om församling, son-namn eller exakt datum. mvh John
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« skrivet: 2011-01-11, 20:01 »
Hej Sonja och Martin !
Jag ber dig båda om ursäkt, jag hade dom redan i min databas och Bengta f.1713-09-05 var dotter till Nils Olofsson med hustru Anna Jakobsdotter i Lilla Skee, Harplinge. Nils och Anna bodde vid Skee och hade fyra barn, och efter bodde vid Fammarp Nr.2 Olof Persgård Kullagård och hade tre barn till. Jag vet ingenting om Nils, men Annas far var Jakob Johansson med hustru Ingier, och farfar var Johan Arvidsson. Jag har mest om Bengtas systrar Inger och Johanna. Manga ättlingar till Inger finns i Harplinge socken.
Om Bengta och hennes två män, från mantalslängder: Enl MTL 1745 maken Alexander död, fästman Lars Persson från Prästegården. Enl MTL 1746 gifta.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2011-01-11, 15:45 »
Hej!
Från Hallands Befolkning CD
Bengta f. 28/7 1701 i Eketånga Västergård (Söndrum, Halland)
Far Jonsson, Nils och Mor Bengtsdotter, Börta
Kanske är det hon ?
Och du sade tidigare att andra son var Alexander.
Vigda 28/12 1736 i Söndrum (Halland)
Andersson, Alexander Dräng Eketånga Västergård
Nillsdotter, Bängta Pigan Fammarp
och så det är varför namnet var Alexander, från hennes första man ?
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2010-12-11, 11:47 »
Hej Carina !
Från Harplinge husförhörslängder och födelseböker. De finns på Timmersjö Nr.1 Rosenlund, Lyngåkra Nr.3 och Margreteberg i Harplinge socken, och Per August var statdräng. Per August Johansson och Johanna Karolina Holm gift sig 1909-10-29 och så flyttade till Harplinge från Abild 1910-05-03. 1919-05-21 flyttade familjen, föräldrar och fyra barn till Årstad.
Barn var
Adolf Frithiof f. 1910-05-07, Margreteberg, Far stat dräng
Ivan Richard f. 1911-09-12, Margreteberg, Far stat dräng
Ester Elisabet f. 1914-09-02, Margreteberg, Far stat dräng
Anna Maria f. 1918-02-13, Lyngåkra, Far jordarbetare
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2010-10-14, 14:24 »
Hej!
I 1890, familjen finns i Gullbrandstorp, dom kom från Halmstad 1882-11-07.
Persson, Nils Johan 1838 Harplinge
Andersdotter, Olivia Beata 1850 Steninge
(Barn), Axel Paridon 1878 Halmstad
(Barn), Johan Bemhard 1880 Halmstad
(Barn), Eleonora Josefina 1882 Halmstad
(Barn), Karl Birger 1884 Harplinge
(Barn), Hedvig 1887 Harplinge
Från 1903-1911 församlingsbok, man ser att Nils Johan levde med andra hustru Neta Christiansdotter f 1854-4-6 Eldsberga, gift 1899-2-3. Sonen Karl Birger bor där också med hustru Anna Elisabet Larsson f 1879-12-16 gift 1910-8-20 och dotter Elin Anna Oscaria f 1911-10-2. Karl Birger hade varit i Amerika men komm tillbaka 1909-4-8.
Olivia Beatas föräldrar var Anders Johansson och Johanna Jöndotter, och jag har mycket upplysningar om Johannas anor. Om du vill har mera, så skicka e-mail.
Jag har just funnit att Nils Johan var kusin till Olivia Beata !
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2010-10-04, 18:11 »
A birth record will have the fathers name and where the family lived. If Storfelt is not the place or farm name, it is possible it is an extended family name acquired say as a soldier (see http://www.dis.se/english/RootedInSweden_9_low.pdf for a little bit on naming including soldiers names) or possibly as a craftsman eg blacksmith in the country or a master craftsman in a town. Where I do my researching, sailors names are common. I was first taken aback where I encountered someone called Papegoja (parrot), who turned out to be an indentured sailor (båtsman). Since the soldiers/sailors had a small plot (torp) to allow them a wife and home and hence to have children during their service years, children to say Nils Svensson Papegoja are then found. When the man ceased service sometimes he might still use the name for some years unless his successor took the same name. If a soldier/sailor, the children would however be Nilsson/Nilsdotter. If the father stayed as a skilled craftsman, some or all children might have his name, ie Storfelt in your instance. (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2010-10-04 18:17)
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« skrivet: 2010-03-20, 11:20 »
Hej !
Vallberga finns i Ränneslöv församling
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2010-01-14, 17:20 »
Hej Björn !
Han finns i 1890 Folkräkningen med far, mor och 8 syskon. De levde i Annestads By, Kronobergs län
Per Otto Sjöstrom Organist f 1843 Madesjö Kalmar
Mathida Petterson Lärarinna f 1847 Algutsboda Kronobergs
Jenny Elisabeth f 1870 Kalmar
Ossian Hjalmar Leonard f 1872 Madesjö
Selma Elvira Mathilda Konstance f 1874 Madesjö
Emerentia Fanny Gelfyra Kristina f 1875 Madesjö
Elsa Gertrud Signe Judit Viktoria f 1877 Madesjö
Anna Bertha Ingegerd f 1880 Annerstad
Martin Hilding Artur f 1882 Annerstad
Ragnar Sigurd Harald f 1885 Annerstad
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2010-01-13, 16:38 »
Hej!
Bara att poängtera att Påhl Jönsson, dräng från Glimminge, Västra Karup fs (L) gift sig med Elna Månsdotter, Pigan från Hasslöv i Halland 1764-07-03. Från Hallands Befolkning CD.
Jag hoppas att det hjälper.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2009-11-28, 15:58 »
Hej Lena ! I am replying in English, since I assume this is ok - and you will need English to get what you are asking for. You can only get all the information by buying a Birth Certificate from www.gro.gov.uk . But to do that you will need a little more data, especially the district. Happily the web site freebmd.rootsweb.com claim to have indexed nearly all of the births from that year, so go there to find the district, the quarter of 1936 when the birth was registered and the two reference numbers given. This will also give you the mothers last name without any further payment. You can then buy the birth certificate. From mothers and fathers name you may also be able to locate their marriage and then buy that Marriage Certificate, which will tell you even more. The latest census data available is only from 1911 unfortunately. Good luck John (Meddelandet ändrat av Johnb 2009-11-28 16:01)
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« skrivet: 2009-10-28, 23:14 »
Hej!
Det händer ofta att när man hade bra jobb som inspektör eller också som smed osv, så tåg man ny namn som var inte son-namn. Från mina egen anor i Harplinge socken, min mmf fff var Svensson och tåg namnet Segerlund som Strandridare i socken. Han var den första med namnet i Halland.
Men om Anders Tomasson och familjen, de var i Rävinge socken efter circa 1810 och en stor del av kyrkoarkivet förstördes vid brand 1868. Anders Tomassons bouppteckning från 1832 har son Mats Andersson 33 år i Rävinge socken, Brännarp Nr.5. Efter 1832 har jag tyvärr ingen aning vad händer.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2009-10-28, 19:18 »
Hej !
Jag har sett vad står under Slöinge.
Från Hallands Befolkning CD,
Morau, Matthias Ladufogden, 1799-07-15 år gift med Olofsdotter, Lowisa
Pigan, 1810-06-10 år Övraby fs i Halmstad 1840-07-05.
Som ladufogden, kann vi dra slutstsen att han tåg namnet Morau, men var tidigare Andersson.
Så är det ganska säkert att han var äldste son till Anders Tomasson, skomakare och Pernilla Matsdotter, född Harplinge Hus 1799-07-15.
Jag har mycket om modern Pernilla Matsdotter och har just nu funnit att Anders Tomasson dog i Rävinge 1832, så om han också. Vill du vett mera, så bara säger.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2009-08-01, 11:13 »
Hej!
Elof, hustru och barn levde till och med 1935 som statdräng på Fjälldalen, Harplinge Nr.3. Yngste barn var Bror Sjunne f.1898-04-03 i Harplinge, så i 1900 var familjen komplett. Son Karl Edvin Ansgarius Pettersson f.1895-10-19 bodde med hustru Signe Alid Johansson f.1905-07-13 i Harplinge med två barn också på Fjälldalen i 1935. Han dog i Haverdal, Harplinge 1981-04-27.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2009-07-12, 17:02 »
Hej ! Varför inte e-mail Henrik Dannberg ? support@dannbergsdata.se Hjälp - Epost i programmet) mvh John
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« skrivet: 2009-06-18, 18:36 »
Hej!
Per f. omkring 1720, d.1797-5-14 var son till Henrik Pålsson, Skattegård. Ingeborg f. omkring 1732 som var dotter till klockare Magnus Börjesson-Nordblom, dog 1805 i Getinge. Thala f.1754-3-5 var första barn så att vigseln var kanske 1753 i Getinge.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2009-06-14, 18:35 »
Under Släkter - S - Spångberg här på Rötter 2004-4-23 finns någonting om släkten Spångberg och Anna Brita från Johan Sjöberg. Kanske du tar kontakt med Johan.
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« skrivet: 2009-02-16, 09:53 »
Carolyn
I crosschecked with the newer Hallands Befolkning CD and its the betrothal, not the marriage that is referenced. Otherwise the reference is as you say. Odd references like this have been added to HGF databases when through the diligence of researchers they have found some data in sources other than the church books.
As you say there is otherwise a gap from 1712 to 1741. This occurence usually means that the book in question was lost. Sadly occasionally there were even parishes when all the books from a period were lost in a fire.
I suggest you e-mail them direct at hgf@halland.genealogi.se and ask if you want more clarification.
John
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« skrivet: 2009-02-11, 14:27 »
Hej!
CD Hallands Befolkning är inte komplett med alla upplysningar från Varberg, så att ingenting finns på CD som nu.
I 1890 folkräkningen finns Anna och Hulda i Varberg
Anna
Fattighj.
b. 1877 i Varberg (Hallands län, Halland)
Hulda
b. 1880 i Varberg (Hallands län, Halland)
Enkan Sofia Gustafssons barn
32:dra qvart. 7 Rot. 245, 248 Reträtten
Varberg (Hallands län, Halland)
Det ser ut som ett fatighus ?
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2009-02-06, 18:33 »
Sharon! To save you some time here is what the census has to say. Frederik shoemaker with wife Gustava Andersdotter are living in a place called Båsane Norre in Dalskog with children Mina 1881, Selma 1882, Agnes 1887 and Hilma Maria 1889. The names you give make it so so likely to be the family, even though your Emma is not there. But she was probably Mina. For contact you might start first with Mellerud Tourist Association see http://vastsverige.com/templates/default____2639.aspx Searches on Båsane Norre or Båsane Norra now find links to a nature reserve site in the Swedish version for the Mellerud Tourist Association, so the site is identifiable today. If you type Båsane Norra into the Eniro map at http://kartor.eniro.se you will easily find it. I notice also that a project at Melleruds Museum has listed Frederik and Gustava and their parents. You might contact them. Details are Dalslandsprojektet, Melleruds museum, Box 132, 464 23 MELLERUD I notice also that the family history site Disbyt has a researcher who has a large number of ancestral relatives for Frederik and if you email me at the address in my user details I will pass his e-mail address on to you, and the e-mail link for the Dalslandsproject. John (Meddelandet ändrat av johnb den 06 februari, 2009)
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« skrivet: 2009-01-04, 12:16 »
Hej Sara !
Sveriges dödbok har också
Wallin, Anna Elina
Drottningg 101
252 33 Helsingborg
Död 15/4 1982.
Kyrkobokförd (1971) i Helsingborgs Maria, Helsingborgs kn (Malmöhus län, Skåne). Mantalsskriven (1971) på samma ort.
Född 26/11 1892 i Virke (Malmöhus län, Skåne).
Gift kvinna (3/3 1922).
+++++
I 1970 och 1980 bor dom på Drottninggatan 101, Helsingborg men utom barn.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2008-10-21, 11:27 »
You mean 1858. Can only suggest you go through all census records for both of them for more clues. As it is you have data on the Carl and Anna you identified as arriving on the Arizona in May 1893. It could still just possibly be them.
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« skrivet: 2008-10-17, 14:46 »
Hi
I looked this up on the Ellis Island Site where I assume you may have looked. If not there is more incuding actual copies of the ships passenger lists.
First Name: Carl
Last Name: Lundquist
Ethnicity: Sweden
Last Place of Residence: Grythttan
Date of Arrival: May 15, 1893
Age at Arrival: 28y Gender: M Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Arizona
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0389
First Name: Anna
Last Name: Lundquist
Ethnicity: Sweden
Last Place of Residence: Grythttan
Date of Arrival: May 15, 1893
Age at Arrival: 26y Gender: F Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Arizona
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0390
One key bit of information is their place of residence which is here spelt wrongly, its Grythyttan in Örebrolän / Västmanland and in the iron working area known as Bergslaggen. This is vital for getting more, and for the Lundqvists should enable someone else to look them up for you.
Unfortunately this is as far as my own resources can take this but I sure hope someone else can take it up for you. There is a CD of emigrant information which may well have their departure, likely from Gothenburg to Hull UK in the first place. Local household registers should give family information. I say all this so that if no immediate response comes, you can title further requests appropriately.
Best wishes
John
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« skrivet: 2008-10-17, 09:51 »
Hi Debbie
It is not easy finding people in Sweden unless one knows first where they came from. The names you mention are quite common, with Andersson very common - there are almost 300,000 Anderssons for example in the Swedish 50 yr death list CD. Have you more information on those who you say left Sweden in 1881/2 ? When the 1880 census search facility is complete which will be soon it may be easier.
There is some hope on your Lindquist - spellings vary, and I found a Carl Pettersson Lindqvist born 1858 marrying an Anna Stina Sunesdotter in Rämmen, Värmland in 1882 on the Disbyt database as an example. They apparently had 7 children. But this Anna was born 1862.
Do try and find out a bit more and come back with another posting.
Regards
John
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« skrivet: 2008-10-03, 17:31 »
Hej !
Från Hallands Befolkning CD finns
Börje
f. 4/12 1774 i Vilshärad (Söndrum, Halland)
Far Bengtsson, Johan Mor Nilsdotter, Anna
Men Ingeborg finns inte
Vigseln var 1801 i Söndrum (från CD)
Johansson, Börge Dräng Vilshärad
Olufsdotter, Ingeborg Pigan Möllan Vid
Om Börjes föreäldrar
Bengtsson, Johan Änkling Täppet
Nilsdotter, Anna Pigan Nytäppet
Vigda 26/11 1756 i Söndrum (Halland)
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2008-08-07, 10:54 »
Hej Rose-Marie !
Hallands Befolkning CD har en Annika Westerman född 1789-10 i Söndrum, far Lars Westerman. En barn till var Sophia Maria f. 19/6 1785 i Kopparmöllan (Halmstad) (Söndrum, Halland) Far Westerman,Lars Mor Hansdotter, Stina.
Jag hoppas att det hjälper
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2008-07-29, 14:22 »
Hej Rose-Marie
Från alla upplysningar som jag har från Hallands GF, ser jag bara att N P Lundgren och Lovisa Vetterman var i Varberg stad i 1839, med Skomakaregesäll Anders Ludvig Lundgren. Upplysningar är från Bouppteckningsregister CD. Vigseln var inte i Halland, så att tyvärr är det sannoligt att båda var inte från Halland.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2008-01-22, 21:38 »
Hej Georg !
Jag ser också att de hade sönner Johannes f.1780-02-18 och Magnus f.1783-10-19, också dotter Anna Brita f.1786-04-22.
Dom finns i mantalslängder till 1786 vid Lunnakull torp, men finns inte i 1788. Jag hoppas att det stämmer. Kanske du kann ange ?
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2008-01-22, 17:08 »
Hej Georg ! Mycket finns i Nannesläkten (se www.nanneson.se/MinSlakt/Slakt-data/index.html) om Sissa (Sidsa) Nilsdotter f 1755. Om Lars Mårtensson Landgren, hans far var Mårten Larsson Landgren och mor var Bengta Persdotter. Lars Mårtensson f 1757-05-12 Skee Harplinge Mårten Larsson Lundgren d 1781-04-05 Ålder: 56 år 3 mån Begravd 8/4 1781 i Harplinge (Halland) Dödsorsak: Håll och styng. Bengta Persdotter d 1794-05-25 Enka (ålder: 74 år) Harplinge Begravd 29/5 1794 i Harplinge (Halland) Larson, Mårten Sochnesmen och Pärsdot:, Bengta Harplinge Vigda 17/10 1756 i Steninge o Harplinge (Halland) Lars hade syster Johanna Brita f 1750-09-13i Steninge (Halland) Far (Ingen namnuppgift) Mor Pärsdr, Bengta Prästgården Johanna Brita g Bengt Nilsson 1779-04-10 och det står i vigsellängd att Kulle Apr 10 Anckemannen Bengt Nilsson vigd Socknesmeden Mårten Landgrens dotter Johanna Nilsdr. Jag har ingen aning varför det står Nilsdotter ! mvh John
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« skrivet: 2007-12-30, 17:52 »
Hej Lena !
Se också SvBef 1890.
Johannes, stenhuggare ogift Särdal No.3
Lovisa Amalia piga Särdal No.4
Från församlingsböcker Harplinge 1881-1890 AI:13 5/8 s.459, 461
Johannes kom från Slättkra till Särdal No.4 Kulsegård 1889-11-04, och 1990-04-04 till Särdal No.3 / Gubbilt, som stenhuggare, struckit ut arbetskarl.
Lovisa Amanda kom från Vapnö till Särdal No.4 Kulsegård 1888-11-07 från Vapnö.
Det är komplettering av alla händelser med familjen i Harplinge socken. mvh John
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« skrivet: 2007-12-30, 15:34 »
Hej Lena !
Som många i trakten var Johannes stenhuggare. I församlingsböcker står det att familjen till Halmstad 1907-09-27. Se Harplinge 1896-1902-1 pict 0060.jpg och 1903-1911-1 pict 0092.jpg
Johannes Olsson 1871-04-13
Lovisa Amelia Hedberg 1864-03-30 g 1892-05-15
Barn
Hilma Maria 1892-08-15
Julia Josefina 1895-02-25
Karl Emil 1897-06-13
Annie Augusta 1900-04-06
Ellen Sofia 1902-04-10
Vigseln Johannes Olsson och Lovisa Amalia Hedberg var i Harplinge. Han var arbetskarl No 3 Särdal (Gubbilt) och hon inhys No 4 Särdal (Kulsegård / Lunden). Båda nuverande till socknen.
Jag hoppas att det hjälper mvh John
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« skrivet: 2007-12-27, 17:36 »
Hi Chris! It all ties together. Gerda Matilda left the parish for America 1886-7-28. Sister Tekla Regina and brothers Axel Johan Rudolf and Karl Ernst left in 1900, but only Karl Ernst apparently stayed. Axel Johan Rudolf returned in 1907, while Tekla Regina is recorded in the Långerydssläkt books as marrying in 1903, and she has many recorded descendents, all from children born in Sweden. Harplinge is a well recorded parish, and the Halland Society (HGF) provide me with much from both their CDs and archive in Halmstad. mbh.
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« skrivet: 2007-12-27, 15:34 »
Hej Lena !
With all of the Harplinge records to 1933 to hand, I thought I might just do my own cross check on Karl Ernst to add to the other responses. You probably already know that the family is well recorded as part of Långerydssläkten. I was fascinated to see that of the 10 surviving brothers and sisters (from 12 born), 7 went to America at different times, though 2 (Axel Johan Rudolf and Tekla Regina) then returned to Sweden to live. The sister that Chris found would be Gerda Mathilda who emigrated in 1886, with no more information on either her or Karl Ernst in the Långerydssläkt books.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2007-09-13, 10:20 »
Hej Cassandra ! Alla födslar, vigslar, död i England har en Certificate som har upplysningar om person, föräldrar osv. Man köpar dom från GRO (Government Records Office). Viktigaste för dig är att har Norman Chapman's Birth Certificate. Besöker http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/births/obtainingbirthcertificates/index.asp . Du måste betala med creditkort och du måste skriva exakt upplysningar om namn och datum. Med upplysningar från den Birth Certificate om föråldrar är det möjligt att mera finns i FreeBMD.rootsweb.com. (Se freebmd.rootsweb.com/progressB.shtml ). Lycka till!
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« skrivet: 2007-08-08, 13:18 »
Hej !
Familjen levde i Gullbrandstorp till 1907. I församlingsbok står det att familjen gick till Halmstad 1907-09-27.
Johannes Olsson f 1871-4-13 Stenhuggare
Levde ensam i Särdal 3 Harplinge 1890
Lovisa Amalia Hedberg f 1864-3-30 g 1892-5-15
Karl Ernst f 1897-6-13
Hilma Maria f 1892-8-15 Särdal 3 Harplinge
Julia Josefina f 1895-2-25 Gullbrandstorp Harplinge
Anna Augusta f 1900-4-6
Ellen Sofia f 1902-4-10
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2007-07-01, 21:02 »
Hej Berit !
Enligt Harplinge husförhörslängder Karl Ludvig Isberg född i Kvibille 1838-2-10. Han och hustru Beata levde i Kvibille 1870, och från 1870-11-23 i Toftagård Skintaby som du vet redan.
Hans föråldrar Karl Frederik Isberg och Ingebor Spångberg gift sig i Getinge. Hennes far Peter Spångberg var organist och klockaren i Getinge d 1841-1-17. Mor var Elna Persdotter d 1835-5-18. Ingebor hade bror Karl Peter Spångberg i Getinge d 1835-5-18. Alla från HGF CDar.
Karl Fredrik levde i Getinge 1835 enligt hans mors bouppteckning och var inspektor i Steninge i 1841 enligt hans fars bouppteckning.
Som du har redan från Britt-Marie, Karl Fredriks födelse finns inte i Steninge födelseböker.
Hoppas att det hjälpar.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2007-05-22, 20:53 »
Hi
Good news and bad.
It is very useful that you know the exact birth date but unfortunate that you do not know the parish he came from. Without that, it could mean searching every Halland parish in turn on Genline. A very long difficult task. Andersson is also one of Swedens most common names !
One possibility now is the Emigrant database. I do not have access at the moment but you could post a request either under the English section or the Emigrant section asking for help with a search. Very likely he sailed from Gothenburg. He will likely be Carl Johan/Jons/Jöns Andersson.
I had a brief look at the Ellis Island site and he did not appear. You could look again yourself.
Another source unfortunatly as yet incomplete is the 1880 census. As of now I did not find anyone at all like him. It will be necessary to wait until more parishes are added. When complete he should certainly be there and easily found.
Another possibility is that the Halland Genealogical Society will have a CD later in the year that promises to be searchable and with birth data from quite a large number of Halland parishes. That will be available the end of August.
If you have not found him by the end of August post this enquiry again and the chances of finding him and more family could be much better.
regards
John
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« skrivet: 2007-03-05, 21:43 »
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« skrivet: 2007-03-04, 15:38 »
Hej Mikael !
I Steninge C:2 1/1 står det att Påhl Jönsson och Pernilla Larsdotter Skattegård hade son Nils f 1776-8-25 döpt 1776-9-1. Det står Sept över den 1.
Steninge AI:2 3/4 p.12 Linnesgård levde Nils Pålsson f 1776-8-5 och Bengta Larsdotter f 1783-9-9. Nils d 1860-10-25 Bengta d 1859.
Jag tror själv att det är det samma Nils Pålsson
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2006-10-12, 22:44 »
Hej Anna ! Från HGF Boupptecknings CD, Karin Nilsdotter dog 1833-06-01 Skepparp 1 Torpet, Make Daniel Staffansson, son Sven 15.
Och 1791-12-24 dog Agnes Persdotter, make Staffan Bengtsson Kärrström, Rotebåtsman i Skintaby, sonner Per 21, Daniel 16, Bengt 10, Peter 5, och dottrar Ingebor 18 och Elna 14.
1812-09-14 dog Staffan Kärrström Botsman i Skintaby, hustru Sissa Persdotter, barn det samma.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2006-10-12, 21:02 »
Hej Anna! I HGF vigsellängd CD finns änkling Daniel Stefansson 58 gm pigan Elna Nilsdotter 51, båda Skepparp, 1834-09-06. Harplinge Hfl AI:5 1848-1854 3/6 s.89 Skepparp 2 Stugan fattigsjön Daniel Stefansson 1775-01-18 och Elna Nilsdotter 1783-03-22. Av intresse är att Daniel kom från Getinge 1798 ! Jag hoppas att det hjälper. mvh John (Maidenhead, England)
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« skrivet: 2006-07-10, 18:08 »
Hej Kjell, Besöker Hallands Rötter och Antavla 21 har anor ! Se www.genealogi.se/halland/antavlor/antavl21.htm. Boken 50 halländska antavlor från HGF, Antavla 1 är nästan detsamma men med få små rättelse. Johanna Petronella Svensdotter f.1824-10-12 är person nr.7 i båda. Hon hade 3 systrar och en bror. mvh John
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« skrivet: 2006-05-06, 12:50 »
Just in confirmation, the Hallands Genealogical Society CD of marriages gives Johannes Nilsson marrying on that date the title parish tailor (Sockne Skräddaren). No other information other than that Marta Larsdoter is pigan ie unmarried. Entries normally recorded at this time if either person was a widow/widower. The spellings just given are the actual entry spellings.
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« skrivet: 2006-02-07, 21:14 »
Hej Kerstin
Det finns mycket i engelska om dom som rest från Göteborg till exempel, via Hull, då till Liverpool med tåg och så med båt till USA. Sök Google med emigration hull sweden och först kommer för mig NorwayHeritage - VoyagesMigration from Northern Europe to America via the Port of Hull, 1848-1914 ... Lycka till.
mvh
John
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« skrivet: 2005-06-14, 23:09 »
Roland
Both are punishments, one very painful, the other very humiliating. The descriptions given in Övriga ämnen: Juridik referenced seem to say it all. Translate spö as lashes. There is no easy translation or English equivalent of kirkoplikt that I know of. You will need to describe what takes place.
mvh John
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« skrivet: 2004-05-20, 08:01 »
Hej Ingemar !
Tack så mycket för upplysningar - jag skall nu titta vidare. Jag och dom i släkten i USA som jag hjälper har sökt i länge tid.
mbh
John
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« skrivet: 2004-05-19, 20:34 »
Hej Ann-Charlott!
Tack så absolut mycket att du svar så snart. Jag har nu så mycket upplysningar att jag måste ta en kort paus. Jag har just sökte vidare i Rötter, och har sett din fråga i Stockholm:Efterlysningar. Jag hade sett tidigare upplysningar i Skåne:Ivetofta, och sökt på DDSS osv. (Jag är engelsman soms anfäder inkluderar släkten Florman från Halland.)
mbh
John
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« skrivet: 2004-05-19, 11:15 »
Hej Ann Charlot!
Jag själv har intresse genom släkten Florman (Elisabet Florman g m Jonas Ahnfelt d 1847). Jag vill bara vara säkert att det Jonas Ahnfelt var son till Gabriel Ahnfelt (1726-1788) och sonson till kornetten Jonas Ahnfelt (1686-1764). Har jag rätt?
hälsningar
John
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« skrivet: 2004-05-19, 10:56 »
Jag söker upplysningar om Christina Hallgren eller Hellgren, f. 4 Nov 1866/7 (från gravsten i USA). Hon gick till USA från Göteborg 1889, CD Emigrant har hon från Vetlanda. Jag har sökte födelse och husförhörs böcker men hon fanns inte? Om någon kan hjålper just lite ...
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« skrivet: 2004-05-18, 14:17 »
Om jag förstår rätt, http://runeberg.org/pht/1905/0019.html har far till kornetten Jonas Ahnfelt f 1686 d 1764 med namnet också Jonas? Och kanske var hans farfar Hans Jurgen Ahnfelt?
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« skrivet: 2004-05-08, 13:51 »
Efter min fråga i 2002, jag både sökt vidare och hade bra kontakter från frågorna här och på HGFs web site. Jag vet nu att min mormorsfar var sonsons son till Per Segerlund född i Harplinge Halland. Ursprungningarna av Segerlunder i Halland är med han. Men de var också en Per Segerlund i Halmstad som hade son begravt 1743, och en som hetter Per Segerlund i Gustav David Hamiltons Company i Malmö i 1753.
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« skrivet: 2004-05-04, 19:23 »
Jag har upplysningar om släkten Möller i fyra generationer, från Olof i Halmstad, hans son Martin i Veinge till sonson Carl Johan Paulus i Falkenberg. Men jag vet minst om sonsons son Carl Axel Ludwig Möller, f. 1875 i Falkenberg. Jag förstår att han var krukmakare i Borås, men vet ingenting mera. Jag skulle bli mycket tacksam om någon har upplysningar om hans liv i Borås.
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« skrivet: 2002-06-13, 17:47 »
Jag är engelsman soms mormorsfar var svensk. Han var sjöman från Sverige, men vet jag inte varifrån. Vigseln sa att han var 23 år in Mars 1878. Hans far var Carl Johan Segerlund, farmer (lantbrukare). Han bor i Hull i England först, han arbetade som fiskeman, också som arbetare. Han gick med familjen till Liverpool. 1888 var han död. Hans fru gifte igen. Han var kallad Merchant Seaman, deceased i 1900. Jag tror att han bodde i väst Sverige kanske, och resade till England som ung man
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