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Norrbärke / SV: Anders Jonsson Sågmäster
« skrivet: 2023-08-15, 10:17 »
As in all cases of genetic genealogy, the DNA has been tested from living descendants of a certain individual or individuals. In this case there exists two DNA tests from two Y-DNA tests from the line on Joen (Jon) Andersson from Starbo, Norrbärke, who has been assumed as a son to Anders Finne. These two tests are both descentants of his son Nils Jonsson's through Nils Jonsson grandson's grandson's grandson Per Hansson (f. 1762). As said, both of these tests match each other and thus prove they are at least same lineage all the way from Per Hansson. Both tests are also of haplogroup N, which is a common haplogroup in Finland and would thus be indirect proof that the lineage comes from this man called "Anders Finne". For certain this lineage cannot be proven further than that, of course, but at least we can surely say it is not a match with Anders Jonsson Sågmästare's line which has been DNA tested to completely different haplogroup I1.
Of course, it would be beneficial for the research to get another comparison DNA test, from possible lines descending or possibly descending from Anders Finne. We have been trying to get a test from the line of Olof Jonsson from Starbo (this line later settled in Gessberg) and if we manage to get a test person to take Y-DNA test, we should be able to see is he also a match to these two men tested previously and do they all share same haplogroup N. Haplogroups of course can be "dealt" in to more specific sub-groups with the more exact mutations that can be found in Y chromosome.
To obtain the most specific information, we of course need more DNA tests and comparisons from lines that divert from further away. But in general we can at least say, that the lineages now tested do not give any supporting evidence, that Anders Finne would have been Anders Jonsson Sågmäster's father - also because the I1 haplogroup tested from Sågmäster lineage is rather common in Sweden and is (at least originally) of Scandinavian origin. Of course that does not rule out that the line has lived for some generations in Finland or Russia, but it does not directly support any theory of the link between Anders Finne and Anders Jonsson Sågmäster.
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Of course, it would be beneficial for the research to get another comparison DNA test, from possible lines descending or possibly descending from Anders Finne. We have been trying to get a test from the line of Olof Jonsson from Starbo (this line later settled in Gessberg) and if we manage to get a test person to take Y-DNA test, we should be able to see is he also a match to these two men tested previously and do they all share same haplogroup N. Haplogroups of course can be "dealt" in to more specific sub-groups with the more exact mutations that can be found in Y chromosome.
To obtain the most specific information, we of course need more DNA tests and comparisons from lines that divert from further away. But in general we can at least say, that the lineages now tested do not give any supporting evidence, that Anders Finne would have been Anders Jonsson Sågmäster's father - also because the I1 haplogroup tested from Sågmäster lineage is rather common in Sweden and is (at least originally) of Scandinavian origin. Of course that does not rule out that the line has lived for some generations in Finland or Russia, but it does not directly support any theory of the link between Anders Finne and Anders Jonsson Sågmäster.
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