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I have several commissioned surveyors among ancestor families from Värmland. They lived in the 1700s and 1800s. I don't need information about specific persons. I am, however, interested in where such men learned the trade and got their degrees. Was it at a university, such as Uppsala?  I have noticed that they tend to "disappear" from their home parish for a few years before reappearing in the parish records.

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This post is inspired by the hope of discovering the fate of Anders Hellgren, born 16 Nov 1757 in Arvika (S). Anders was the youngest son of army Sergeant Robert Niklas Hellgren (circa 1705 - 1763).


The last known residence of Anders was at Björkås, Kila (S) about 1770, along with two brothers (Klas Fredrik and Lennart Magnus) and also with uncle Captain Lennart Johan Ramzell and his family. See: Kila (S) AI:3 (1769-1776) p. 170, AID v11832.b175.s170.


The Hellgren and Ramzell family members are well documented after this entry but Anders seems to disappear.


Some years ago I ran across an intriguing explanation for what became of Anders Hellgren. In Göteborg Kristine moving-in records for February 1776 was Betjänten Anders Hellgren, born 16 Oct. 1756 (!). Very close to an exact match for "my" Anders. However, more evidence was needed to prove a connection.


The apparent Göteborg Anders Hellgren, hovmästaren with East India Company, married Christina Maria Nyman at Kristine (O) on 30 Nov 1785. Bride and groom were both 29 years old (that is, born ~1756).


Anders Hellgren and C. M. Nyman are recorded in Kristine church records as having several children between 1788 and 1796:


1) Andreas Gustaf, b. 1 Apr 1788 (apparently died 14 Jan 1795)
2) Carl Petter, b.15 Jan 1791
3) Anna Maria, b. 14 Jun 1792
4) Charlotta Sophia, b. 29 Apr 1794
5) Catharina Cecilia, b. 5 Jun 1796


Anders Hellgren was consistently described as "hovmästare" or "betjänt" or "bouteilleur": a ship's steward, in English.


What is mystifying to me is that after the 1796 birth of the daughter, Catharina Cecilia, the entire family seemingly disappears from all records. Göteborg Kristine indexes do not show any of them leaving the parish. Likewise, Kristine death indexes only show the death of son, Andreas Gustaf.


I have searched the death index and Population of Sweden (1800-1947) indices on Arkiv Digital. None of the above individuals are conclusively found. It is as if the family emigrated somewhere and never returned to Sweden.  Seeing as Anders was an employee of the East India Company, I suppose he might have been transferred to another place where the EIC maintained a presence. Or, he might have had the connections necessary to move his family by ship to another country.


Arkiv Digital deaths index had one Anders Hellgren who died in the early 1800s at an island parish near Göteborg. No sign of any of other individuals above were found in the parish so I have strong doubts it is the same person.


I looked for records of the East India Company but it seems few of them have survived. None of the ones I found (ship manifests) made any mention of Anders Hellgren.


I am looking for ideas for other avenues of research. My ultimate goal is to find later records of Anders Hellgren from Värmland. At the least, I would like to confirm or disprove that the Göteborg Anders Hellgren is the same person.


Thanks in advance for any information.
Jeff

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Are there resources for discovering whether a particular person attended and/or graduated from Uppsala university in the mid-1700s? If so, is a detailed biography on those students in the records?


I recently found the burial record of an Olof Apelqvist who died in Värmland (possibly Silbodal parish) in February 1769. Olof was buried in Stora Kil (S) parish in March 1769, his body apparently having been transported all the way from western Värmland. The record states that he was an "Adjunkt" (curate) in Köla "pastorat" and Järnskog parish (both in western Värmland, near the Norway border). "Upsala" is also mentioned in the burial record, presumably the school where he was trained.


Olof was reported to be 25 years old at death, which places his birth around 1744. I would like to discover whether Olof matriculated or graduated from Uppsala Univ., probably sometime after 1760.


The primary reason I am interested in Olof is because of the Stora Kil location mentioned in the burial record: Lökene (or Lökenö). As it happens, my direct ancestor, Inspector Gustaf Apelqvist, lived at Lökene in 1769. Gustaf is something of a mystery since his birth origins and parents are (as far as I know) still unknown. Gustaf married Maria Todin (or Thodin) in 1748 so Olof is not among Gustaf's known offspring. Olof could conceivably be the product of an earlier, as yet undiscovered, relationship. Alternatively, Olof could be Gustaf's much younger brother or a nephew. No relationship is mentioned in the burial record nor, in fact, any mention of Gustaf. However, it begs credibility to think there is no relationship between the two. I am ultimately hoping that information about Olof leads to new insights about Gustaf.


FYI, I am also pursuing a separate research avenue on Olof by seeing if he appears in the Karlstad diocese "Herdamine" records.


Source record: Stora Kil (S) C:11 (1758-1786), p. 138, Arkiv Digital v8313.b74.s139


Thanks in advance for any help.

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03) Osorterat / Translation and Location Please
« skrivet: 2013-06-23, 20:21 »
On the Household Survey 1741-1749 for Fryksände Parish, Värmland, I'm trying to find two things:
1.  Three villages are listed that I am confused about:  
    Kållerud (pages 32-35), Kälkerud (pages 176-179) and Källingerud (pages 256-257)
    I am trying to find the one that is later referred to as Kjellkerud.  
    I believe it might be Kälkerud.
2.  If it is Kälkerud, could someone translate the villagers?  I think the people I am looking for are
    on page 177, the Jon Persson family. But during this timeframe, the husband (Jon) and wife (Karin) would have
    had two boys, Jon and Nils and they do not show up.  Have I got the wrong family?  Or is there some reason the
    boys wouldn't have shown up?
Thank you for your help.

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I'm wondering about naming conventions.
 
From a written family history one of my GGGrandfather is shown as Lars Larsson-Skymberg from the village Vastra Skymas, yet in the 1880 census he is shown as Lars Larsson.  Does the Skymberg reference a geographical area (Skymas)?
 
My other GGGrandfather is shown as Olof Olafsson Post.  My GGrandfather Is Jon Westling Post (Where did Westling come from??). Two of his brothers used the surname Liljenquist Post (Where did the Liljenquist come from??).  Also what is the “Post”?.  All the brothers seemed to drop “Post” upon emigrating to America.  This has been very confusing.

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Archive - Swedish language / Generalmönsterrullor translation
« skrivet: 2005-02-21, 20:40 »
Hi all,
 
I recently spent time researching soldier ancestors in the generalmönsterrullor (GMR) records of Närke-Värmlands regimente. I found one particularly good entry but I need help translating parts of it:
 


 
 
This was taken from the N-V reg. GMR of 1708, Jösse härads company. I can understand most of the first sentence and get a general sense of the rest. The paragraph appears to list Börje Hellgren's service record from the time of his enlistment (in 1701?) until his most recent promotion from furir to förare.
 
I researched the rote entry for N-V reg. soldier no. 546 and found it corresponds to Jösse company's 2nd corporal at the village of Brevik, Ny (S) parish. (There are actually two Breviks, Östra and Västra, but the muster did not specify which was the corporal's residence.)
 
I'd greatly appreciate help deciphering the old-style handwriting and insights to its meaning. In particular, I am intrigued by the reference to Helge Grottz ??lla.
 
Thanks in advance,
Jeff

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Archive - Swedish geography / Unknown place in Värmland
« skrivet: 2003-12-08, 04:38 »
I need help deciphering what I think is a place name, probably in Värmland.
 
In the early 1760s, some of my ancestors lived in Gustås, Arvika (S). The father died in 1763 and the rest of the family moved elsewhere around 1764. The HFL entry for 1760-64 contains the following notation:
 

 
I am assuming this refers to a place. It is written in such a way to indicate maybe the whole family moved there. It could just be where one of the family relocated. In either case, it would help to know what is the place name (it is written indistinctly) and where is it? This is my only clue as to any of their whereabouts until about 1774.
 
In case it helps, the HFL entry is Arvika AI:1, 1760-64, page 48. Genline ID 463.51.72800.
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
Jeff

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Archive - Swedish geography / Carlsberg in Sillerud, Värmland
« skrivet: 2004-12-03, 20:44 »
Hi all.
 
I've been researching families in Sillerud, Värmland. I need a little help locating a place referenced in flyttning records.
 
Carlsberg: Possibly Carlberg, today probably spelled Karlsberg.
 
Background: Carl Magnus Hellgren and family lived at Häljebyn, Sillerud until 1821 (Sillerud (S), AI:9A) but disappeared without warning from the next Hfl. Utflyttning records show a daughter who moved out of Sillerud in 1824, leaving from a place called 'Carlsberg.' No such place appears in the Hfl village list. Can't find it on Lanmateriet maps of Sillerud either. It's likely the family is still in Sillerud somewhere but under a different place than Häljebyn. Any ideas? Perhaps a new house/farm/manor built near Häljebyn?
 
Thanks and Best Regards,
Jeff

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Archive - General questions / What is the meaning of----
« skrivet: 2004-01-28, 01:46 »
One of my ancestors has the title of vedflottare. What does this mean?
   Thank you
 
Nancy Jaderen

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Hi all,
 
Tonight I found the marriage entry for two of my distant ancestors, Pål Pålsson and Anna Staffansdotter. They lived at Stormörtsjön, Torp (Y) but according to her death entry, Anna was born at Kölsjön, Hassela (X). Pål and Anna had several children, the first born in 1711.
 
I found what seems to be their marriage entry in Hassela C:2, the first for 1710. (GID 596.13.69100, in case you want to it up yourself). I have transcribed it with a little cleaning up of the names.
 
Midsommars dagen  copularades Pål Pålsson ifrån Stöde i Målyrud och Anna Staffansdotter wid Kölsjön.
 
Ahem. Well. I've never before seen 'copularades' used as the verb in a marriage entry. Nor did I find any other entry like it in the Hassela vigselbok. All the rest use the term 'vigde'.
 
I think these are the right people despite that Pål is recorded as from someplace in Stöde. Kölsjön is located where the parishes of Torp, Hassela and Stöde (Y) all meet.
 
Am I making too much of this? Or, does it indicate that Pål and Anna married by some old-fashioned (perhaps even non-Christian) ceremony? I know that Midsommar is a big festival in Sweden but I'm not aware of any special significance with getting married then.
 
Also, what date should I record for Midsummers Day 1710? 21 June? Something else?
 
Thanks for any enlightenment,
 
Jeff

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Archive - General questions / Missing birth & marriage records
« skrivet: 2010-01-06, 21:08 »
I am curious as to missing records in genline. It seems that the approximate period of 1860 to 1898 that at a number of parishes the birth and marriage records are not available. 1. Were the churches required to keep these records during that period? 2. Is there some decree that states the records can not be made available to public access, like on genline? 3. Is there some other reason this period of information is not available? Tack så mycket for your insight on the subject. Ken

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Hi all.
 
I have several ancestors who were soldiers in Närke och Värmlands Regimente (mostly in the 1700s). Almost all were professionals (rather than rote enlisted men) and held officer rank. Most were sergeants or fältväbeln but at least one made lieutenant. I am thinking of researching the army muster rolls (mönsterrullor) to learn more about their service histories. Before I start, I have a couple questions that pertain to finding commissioned and non-commissioned officers in the muster rolls.
 
Every reference I have read about muster roll research only discusses how to find enlisted soldiers of the rote. Nothing about commisioned officers and very little regarding non-coms. I am assuming that men of all ranks are listed, particularly in the general muster. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.
 
Question 1: Are officers mixed in with enlisted troops in the rolls? For example, can sergeants and commissioned offices appear anywhere within the pages of a particular company? Or, do the officers appear on special pages for officers only, separate from the rote enlisted men? In other words, how easy is it to find a particular officer in the rolls, as compared to locating the average rote soldier?
 
Question 2: Do muster rolls provide information about where officers lived (i.e., the parish)? Here's some background. I tend to already have a lot of information about my military ancestors. However, I have found that they also moved around a lot and typically only stayed in one parish for 3-5 years at a time. I assume this is because the army periodically reassigned officers to serve with a different company in the regiment. The result is gaps in my knowledge of the parishes where these men lived. I am hoping the muster rolls can help me fill in the gaps. Assuming I can discover the company to which he was assigned, can I then (either directly or with the help of other source material) determine the parish and village where he lived? If that is not possible, it takes away much of the reason I have for researching the muster rolls.
 
Thanks for your help.
 
MVH,
Jeff Benson

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Old topics - From Emigrants (2006-2007) / Lag Lars Olsson
« skrivet: 2007-07-21, 21:37 »
I am looking for Lag Lars Olsson, from Kittan Sweden.  Do not have a birth date.  Came to the US. June 1883.  Married Anna Dolroth born 1847.
He died in Minnesota 1886.  Can any one help me to find any information about him?  Thank you.

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I have been doing research in fairly old parish records (before 1750 in Älvdalen, Dalarna) at a time when most baptisms, weddings and burials were recorded under the name of the feast day in the church calendar, rather than the calendar date. I have managed so far to figure out what calendar date corresponds to each feast day using web searches and the charts found in the reference book Cradled In Sweden (by Carl-Erik Johansson). However, I have regularly encountered one set of feast days that aren't mentioned in my references.  
 
The vicars of Älvdalen were fond of holding events on Die X Solemnis Precum (where X seems to be 1, 2, 3 or 4). I have finally figured out that the Latin means solemn day of prayer so I expect Die 1 Solemnis Precum translates as First solemn day of prayer. Likewise, 2, 3 & 4 correspond to the Second, Third and Fourth prayer days. Maybe there were even more prayer days in the calendar, I don't know.
 
I would like to know what were the calendar dates of these prayer days? (That is, assuming the date was the same every year.) If prayer days were held on different dates each year (as I suspect they were), how does one calculate each one? I know they do not fall on the regular Sunday feast days because prayer days always appear in the records between the feast days I recognize.
 
Thanks for any information you can provide.
 
Jeff

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Björkstrand / Björkstrand
« skrivet: 2006-12-02, 14:29 »
Hej jag behöver hjälp vet inte hur jag ska gå till väga.
Min morfar Lennart thure Björkstrand född i uppsala 29/7 1914 hadde en far som jag letar efter
Johan Adolf Björkstrand 1887 30/7 gift med Maria Gerda Gustavsson  född 1894 16/3.Dom fick 5 barn varav en min morfar.Men jag vill leta vidare på Johan Adolf men hittar inget det står inte vart han kom ifrån eller något alls.I en av dop böckerna står det Habbylund 2.Jag vet att hans fru dog runt 1923 i blodförgitftning men hittar henne inte i dödböckerna .Johan Tog självmord något år sedan men har gått igenom uppsala dödenböcker från 1923-1925  hittar ingenting.Arne en av ungarna blev bortadopterad när han var ca 3 år han var född 1915 .Så om någon vet något eller hur jag ska gå till väga så snälla hjälp.
Tack på Förhand Majsan

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Skaraborgs län R / Istrum
« skrivet: 2006-12-11, 22:50 »
Var finns Istrums husförhörslängder omkring 1840? I SVAR-katalogen verkar de finnas, men inte på Genline.

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I am looking for information about Anders earliest and latest years, including birthplace, parents and place of death/burial. I have found evidence of his middle years, roughly 1768-1794, but know nothing outside this range.  
 
Earliest evidence I find of Anders is at Bro parish. Anders married Maria Jensdotter (born ~1744-1747) about 1768, possibly in Bro. Their first daughter, Anna Maria, was born at Stensberg, Bro, 17 Jul 1769. I am able to follow the family through many moves to different parishes until about 1792-94 in Eskilsäter. After that, I do not know where Anders, Maria or their youngest children went.  
 
Other known children of Anders and Maria:  
Britta Lisa, born (& died) 1770, Sunne  
Elsa Lovisa, born 1771, Sunne  
Sara, born 1774, Stora Kil  
Britta Christina, born 1777, Stora Kil  
Greta Lisa, born 1779, Frykerud  
Johan, born 1782, Nor  
Daniel, born 1783, Nor  
Olof, born 1786 (parish unknown)  
Lars Fredrik, born 1792, Eskilsäter  
 
Wife Maria may have been born in Bro although I have not found definite evidence of this. By 1774 Maria started appearing with the surname Bjurström. I seek the same kinds of information about Maria's earliest and latest years as I do for Anders. While the Bjurström name was often used by smiths (e.g, in Eda and Köla parishes), I can not find any connection to those families.  
 
I have circumstantial evidence that Anders may be related (brother?) to two other Rudqvists: Halvard (born 1733) and Daniel (born 1725). (Another man, Bengt Rudqvist, born 1729, who I found living at Kila ~1765, may also be related.) I often found Anders and Halvard or Halvard and Daniel living in the same parish during the same years (or nearly the same). Sometimes they even lived at the same village. Daniel died 1778 or 1779 at Västbro, Bro. Halvard died 1794 at Kärvinge, Eskilsäter (Anders, Maria and family were also at Kärvinge around this time).  
 
I hope someone can help fill in the blanks surrounding Anders and Maria.  
 
Thanks in advance.  
 
Regards,  
Jeff Benson

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Rättvik / Äldre inlägg (arkiv) till 05 december, 2010
« skrivet: 2010-11-01, 13:56 »
I dödboken för Nora församling i Ångermanland finns följande två personer från Rättvik:
Dahlflickan Stina Andersdotter från Rättvik död 19/9 1848 i Salom (by i Nora), ålder 40 år 5 mån 13 dagar, vilket ger en födelsetid 6/4 1808.
 
Dahlkarlen Anders Hanssons hustru Stina Olsdotter från Rättvik död 22/1 1849 i Salom, ålder 86 år 6 mån 14 dagar, dvs född ca 1762.
 
Personerna finns inte i några andra kyrkböcker för Nora och det går därför ej att säga att de är dotter och föräldrar.
 
I Rättviks födelsebok hittade jag nr 58 Christina född 1/6 1808 med fadern Mötjas Anders Hansson i Övre Gersse (Gärdsjö) och modern Christina Olsdotter, 42 år, dvs född ca 1766.
 
Familjen finns på Rättvik AI:9C sid 67, där dotter Christina får födelsedatum 4/6 och familjens ant. upphör 1817-18 och därefter har jag inte hittat dem i Rättvik.
 
Har jag hittat rätt familj trots Christina Olsdotters olika födelseår?

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Hello, you geneaolist. I am searching for my grandmothers relatives. My grandmother was born 26-2-1886 and die 1920. She married Olof Pettersson. I don\t know were Olof was born or when he die. Anna and Olof got four children. John Oskar born 1908, Lena born 1911, Jenny Olivia born 1912 and Rut Josefina born 1915. Anna (perhaps she called Britta in Amerika) came to Boston 1904 and later I think she moved to Concord. If anybody have information about this you can contact me. My e-post kurtumea@hotmail.com  My postadress Kurt Andersson pl 2211 Burås 47294 Svanessund tel 0304-44591.

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