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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2023-07-12, 05:32 »

Hello again
I'm just checking in again to keep this enquiry alive & in the hope that something new may turn up or that some new sources may have become available.
My enquiries here in Australia are on-going but there is nothing new to report & my nephew's DNA efforts are showing connections to Swden & Finland but its all a bit too general at this point.
I'm wondering if there are on-line, searchable historical newpspaer archives..
From my browsing it seems that there are but they are (of course) in Swedish and I cant search them myself.
Was it a practice there to post Family Notices of births, deaths & marriages in he papers?
I know I have rather vague info to work with (see earlier posts) but perhaps a quick search might yield something..
Thanks again for any & all help 

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2021-02-15, 01:37 »

Hi again - its been a while since I posted re Peter Brown.

As I said back then, I don't think there is anything here in Australia that is going to help sort this out.
Wondering if any new, helpful material may have come to light in Sweden since late 2019?

Cheers
Greg

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-11-25, 04:42 »

Hi again

Kristina - Its obviously not a welcome post, but thank you for doing that excellent piece of research.
Kristina has "torpedoed" the Eugenie theory and now I have the absolute worst number of possibilities for Peter Brown - zero 
Maybe some new information will come to hand here in Australia or maybe someone in the forum can think of a new line of enquiry, but for the moment I cant see any way forward from here - it was always a long-shot.

Many thanks again to Erik, Margaretha, Maud and Kristina for helping me out.
Cheers
Greg
PS - I'm willing to help out with any enquiries about Australian connections.

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-11-24, 11:42 »

Hey Erik

Wow!!
Firstly your elimination work came up with one live possibility - the perfect number!
Then your were able to pick up that the person in question has a connection to Australia and at the sweet-spot as to timing.
I couldn't have hoped for anything as good as that - thank you so much for providing so much assistance.
I'll immediately follow up those 2 leads (thanks again) and will post the results when I get anything further.
I guess there's still some way to go, but now we have a very strong candidate to focus on.

Cheers
Greg
PS. I would have replied earlier but have been away for a couple of days without internet cover.

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-11-21, 07:26 »

Hi again from Australia.

I have been doing further research here, but have not been able to come up with any fresh clues about the Swedish connections of Peter Brown (?)
I have found some newspaper items and they suggest he was a rather colourful character.. sharing them with you.
The first bizarre/embarrassing one came only a couple of years after his marriage..
The next 3 are run-ins with the law.
So I guess my best shot is for help with the list in my previous post.. hoping that PB is one of the people on my list and that someone with access to more comprehensive records in Sweden can help to eliminate any of those who is traceable in Sweden after 1855..

When scanning the newspapers I found a few articles that i wouldn't have expected in provincial titles - attaching one which might be of general interest.

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-10-24, 12:10 »

Hi again Margaretha

Unfortunately that info on Lars Petter's parents doesn't tally with anything we have on record for the Peter Brown, but I'll keep it in mind anyway.
Interestingly I cant find any record of a Norlin in Australia within that timeframe.
My nephew is tacking this via DNA - who knows perhaps a Norlin will pop up one day!!

I have reworked the search query I used in my post of 15 Oct. - I have relaxed the condition that PB's mother had some sort of name like Olsson.
This gave me 24 possibilities - including the 2 who were eliminated by Erik Mouwitz. I have used the LDS search routines to the best of my ability to eliminate a further 13 candidates. So there are nine remaining possibles - see yellow rows in the attached spreadsheet.

Perhaps someone could follow up on those candidates the way that Erik was able to action the first two...

Cheers & thanks again for all your help so far
Greg
 

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-10-17, 09:23 »

Hi again Erik

Thanks for all that info, there are several family historians here in Australia that have been researching PB - I don't think there are many (any) unturned stones here... I am running a few other searches on the LDS site ... but as you say there's not much to work with.

Hi Margaretha

Many thanks for your time & interest - that Emibas sounds like a great resource for this search... really interested to hear what else you can find. How extensive is this database? Is it digitised?

Hi Maud
Many thanks to you as well.
I was aware of earlier searches for PB (see my 1st post) but only the English version
Before my 2nd post, I did contact Ake Sjokin as well
I cant really follow what is in that Swedish post - did it have any findings that might be of interest to me?

Thanks again folks
Greg

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-10-16, 13:16 »

Hi Erik

Thanks you very much for your time & assistance. I guess it would have been a real fluke if something had turned up immediately.

Are there gaps in the Swedish BDM records or is it that they are not yet fully indexed?

Australia was a series of British colonies up until 1901, the immigration records offer very little information for family history purposes.
I have not been able to find any record of Peter Brown as an assisted or unassisted migrant.
There are even less details for ship's crew - but I can find only one possibility. In 1854 on the Lady Kennaway there is a Brown from Sweden listed as a 25 year old able-bodied seaman.. But the Christian name isn't clear and there is no supporting family details.
I have PB's will - nothing useful there either.
Unable to find any record of him requesting or receiving citizenship.

Any suggestions ?
What about sailors working out of Sweden? is this readily available or reliable?

Thanks again
Greg 

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Discussions in English / SV: Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-10-15, 08:14 »

This is an addendum to my post..
I have strung a succession of IFs together..
* If the LDS Family Search website has indexes to all Swedish baptisms  AND
* PB had a name something like Peter AND
* PB was baptised between 1827 & 1829 AND
* PB's father was Gabriel AND
* PB's mother had a name like Olson/Olafsdtr
Then PB might possibly be one of the 2 people listed in this document.

Can these candidates be checked..
Was either Gabriel a farmer?
Are there any records for these 2 Petters ins Sweden - in particular did one "disappear" in the early 1850's

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Discussions in English / Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia (Take 2)

« skrivet: 2019-10-04, 06:05 »

I am seeking any information that may help to identify a Swedish ancestor who migrated to Australia in the early 1850's.
All records in Australia use the name Peter Brown (hereafter PB), but I am aware that it is at best an Anglicised version of a Swedish name.
There isn't very much solid data to work with and its is inconsistent, so I am just very hopeful, rather than very confident of a breakthrough result.
I don't have an Australian immigration/arrival record that I completely trust. We understand that PB was a sailor and possibly jumped ship to try his luck in the Victorian goldfields - certainly that's where he lived until his death in 1891.
The source records I have show that he was married to Kate O'Farrell at Bendigo (Sandhurst) Victoria in Nov 1856. There were 2 ceremonies on the same day - one in his Protestant church & a 2nd in her Catholic church - Kate was Irish & also nearly untraceable.
Both marriage docs attached - the info is consistent, but the 2nd certificate has slightly more details.
I have highlighted the main attributes..
* PB's age is given as 28 meaning he would have been born c1828 - location given as near Stockholm.
* His father is Gabriel (a farmer) and mother Mary (perhaps Maria?)
I have collected a few other newspaper items, but they don't have anything about his Swedish family.
The only other source record is PB's death certificate (attached) and it just confuses the situation.
This info was supplied by his son - also Peter Brown - but its some 35 years later and probably less reliable.
 It reconfirms his age and Stockholm as the place of birth, but names 2 different parents.. William Brown & Christina Olston (Olsson ?)
* PB must have spent 2 years in Tasmania - I can't find anything in their records that is relevant.
PB's will is available but doesn't give anything related to his Swedish family - as far as we know he came to Australia alone.

Any help or any suggestions greatly appreciated.
I am based in Australia so cant do any research on anything other than what is on-line. I was recently, briefly in Stockholm & spent an afternoon in museums/libraries hoping to find something, but needed more time (and knowledge on where to look)
Thanks - Greg Ware
PS - This is a follow-up to my mid-Sep post as that approach didn't seem to work out..

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Discussions in English / Peter Brown - Swedish migrant to Australia

« skrivet: 2019-09-16, 08:20 »

Hi to the Forum - I have only just registered & this is my first post.
I am seeking information about Peter Brown (born c 1828 in Sweden) - we know he migrated here (to Australia) in the 1850's but there is very little in the historical records and what little there is tends to be somewhat contradictory.
 Before presenting any specific info, I can see that there have been previous (archived) posts on Peter. The respondents were akesjodin, izla and rannug - can I ask if any of those enquiries found any relevant Swedish data.