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Meddelanden - Elin Tamm
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« skrivet: 2021-05-23, 16:34 »
Yes I found the Hammar-family in Halmstad (not in the Kyrkoarkiv, havent lookt there yet, but in an other persons family-three at Geni). One of them were Kronolänsman. Can try to see if there is any traces from J E being a fosterchild in one of the Hammar-families. Feels like looking for a "nål i en höstack". What I know is that J E Hammar was in Foglesång in 1814 but before that I don´t know.
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« skrivet: 2021-05-23, 13:56 »
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« skrivet: 2021-05-23, 11:30 »
Haha! A wrapper. That’s a little bit frustrating. But fascinating to se his name, written by his hand. Does it say 1821? Then at least I know that he lived and worked there then (before getting married 1822).
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« skrivet: 2021-05-23, 09:45 »
I was checking the ”inflyttningsattester” 1811-1821 to see if his name was there. It was, but it was kind of a strange note. Not an inflyttningsattest. https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0010760_00323#?c=&m=&s=&cv=322&xywh=-108%2C-1323%2C4411%2C7505 I think it says “Betalas innan varan får bortföras. Menlösa den 1 oktober 1821. Efter anmodan JE Hammar. Haslöf” But what does it mean? (i do understas what it does mean, I just don’t understand why this note is put with the inflyttningsattester and how it might help me)
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« skrivet: 2021-05-19, 21:00 »
So many interesting thoughts! Thank you. Yes he must have had education for becoming a Kronobefallningsman. So I guess we can forget about the orphan born in 1779. I checked for Johan Eric in i birth-register (in one of the bilagor) but there is no other Johan Eric registred any other date or year in Habo. (I thought that it was a small possibility that he was born 1778 or 1780) But school i Skara sounds interesting. I can try to check it out. Yes mabey Wrangel had something to do with it ... It was my grandmother that heard from har mothers brothers wife that one of the Hammar-cousins "knew" that. Might just have been gossip.
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« skrivet: 2021-05-18, 21:49 »
That´s an intresting thought. You don´t think that there is any possibility that the orphaned child grew up and at the age of 43 married a noble women? You are right that it seems like a fairytale and I guess that it just didn´t happen at that time. But there is no other boy named Johan Erik borned in Habo 1779.
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« skrivet: 2021-05-18, 21:19 »
Thank you! No there was no flyttlängder only inflyttningsattester, but didn´t find anything there. Yes Västergötland is really big! But mabey I will find him. It says everewhwhere that he is from Westergötland. As you say he is 43 years old when he gets married. He must have leaved som traces ... But it seems hard to know how to find them.
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« skrivet: 2021-05-18, 20:34 »
Thank you! I have tried to read but it seems impossible. Frustrating! But I also think it ends with -stad. Is the X-stad the place where he was born or the place he moved from? There are not som many places in Västergötland named X-stad. Mariestad mabey? But I dont know i Västergötland 2021 is the same area as Westergötland 1779. I have tried to track him in the archives but I am not very experienced. Thought about flyttlängderna, if I can find him when he moved to Menlösa?
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« skrivet: 2021-05-18, 16:24 »
Did you find out anything about the boy you tried to track. I am curious.  I'm trying to track that boy born in feb 1779, but it isn't too easy. First of all, his fathers last name isn't Andersson as is stated in the birth notice, it's Arvidsson. Took a while to figure that out. The family is leasing the land in Dykärr, but moves away in about 1793 to Flategärde in Bottnaryd parish. Anders Arvidsson dies there in 1800, and Johan Eric moves away to Mulseryd parish in 1801. I have not yet found him there, but I will go on looking for him later if noone else hasn't found him already then.
Last place I see Johan Eric, here called just Jon:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0019909_00049#?c=&m=&s=&cv=48&xywh=-802%2C1548%2C5101%2C2402
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« skrivet: 2021-04-14, 22:35 »
Våxtorp church books state that his man was born 27th of Oct, 1779
I have been told that we was born in Habo parish. There is one Johan Eric, born in Feb 1779.
Does anyone know the parents of Mr Hammar
Juha
Hello! J E Hammar is my fathers mothers fathers fathers father. I have also tried to find him. My aunt had been told from my grandmother that his parents were unknown and that he was raised in a family named Hammar. She said that a old lady in the family “knew” that the real father was a noble man from the titled Wrangel-family. In his first marriage J E was married a women from a noble family (Agneta Kristina Gyllensvärd). I have no idea if it is any truth at all in this family-stories. But it’s really frustrating not being able to find him anywhere. I also found the boy born in February. Please let me know if you find out something more.
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« skrivet: 2019-03-08, 12:23 »
Så roligt att hitta min farmors mormors syster Hulda i listan över nipperhandlerskor. Det jag vetat om henne är att hon haft "sybehörsaffärer som gått omkull". Men nipper verkar ju innebära något annat än "sybehör"egentligen. Hon gifte sig aldrig men fick många vackra kärleksbrev som jag har i min ägo. Det går att av dem förstå att det ibland var bekymmer med affärerna. Hon växte upp i en skara av sex systrar på Rydö Bruk.
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