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« skrivet: 2013-04-25, 17:58 »
Thanks, Stafan and Lief, for your responses. I do not know what to think about the two records with different death dates for what appears to be the same person-Ella, wife of Anders Christophersson. Perhaps the date in the Norn record is not correct.
Stefan, that genealogy chart and the court record which you used to construct it was most interesting. do you have more information about Chirstin Andersdotter? She would be my direct ancestor, and I would like to know more about her.
I decided to see whether the mantalslängder might have some more information, and so searched the early records for Vikmanshyttan, Hedemora. It is interesting to compare these records with your chart, Stefan There is a Christopher Hansson with two taxable people in his household in the year 1642, but not later. Christopher Hansson first appears in Nornsbruk in 1645, so this Christopher could be the same person. The other people who could be the same as those on Stefan's genealogy chart are:
1642-1643 Biörn Andersson;
1645-1670 Erich Johansson with hustru och dot from 1653-1665, named with hustru, 2 sons, dot, but no bonde 1671-1673, not found 1676, but Hans Erichsson and brother or brothers is found .
There is a Hans Erichsson 1648-1650 but probably not the same Hans Erichsson
I did not find a Johan Hansson, Hans Johansson, or any person with the first name of Hans. I skipped a few records, and did not search after 1676.
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« skrivet: 2013-04-21, 00:45 »
This continues a discussion from Släktnamn, Smed- och vallonsläkter, Grandpré / Grampré, concerning Anna Persdotter Grandprés first husband Christopher Andersson. I think that his parents were Anders Christophersson and Ella in Nornsbruksförsamling. I found them in these records: Hedemora AI:2 p73,74 Nornsbruk (second page numbers, AD Online bild 162); Hedemora AI:3 p.251; Nornsbruksförsamling DII:1 p.13 Nattvardsförteckning.
The Hedemora entry AI:2 is confusing because on page 73 And. Christophersson, hust Ella are listed, and on page 74 Christopher Andersson, hust. Anna, son Hans, dito Petter, dot Karin, dito Kersten are found. At first I thought that Hans, Petter, Karin, and Kersten were children of Christopher Andersson, but the other two records show that they were children of Anders Christophersson. In DII:1 Christopher Andersson, hust Anna are listed below Anders Christophersson’s family. The AI:2 record would not have been so confusing if the family had been on one page.
Burial or death records for family members are found in Norns bruksförsamling DII:1. In 1708, p.72, “Dia Misericordias (May 1) And. Christophers hustru, hustru Ella”; In 1725 p103, “d. 28 Februarii afsomnade den ålderstegen mannen Anders Christophersson i Christophersboo, som war 102 år gammal”; in 1733, p103 “d. 20 Febr: dog gambla drängen Hans Andersson Haasman ifrån Christophersbo. begrofs af 25 Febr: i Hedmora. Blef förfrusen....” in 1734 p104 “Febr. Begrofs gla pigan Kiersten Andersdotter Haasman ifrån Christophersbo. Systren till gla drängen Hans Andersson....” In 1738 p104 “Novembris d.11 dog gambla Pigan Karin Andersdotter Hasman systren till de före olycken döde bleven Hans och Kierstin Hasmann ifrån Christophersbo. denna Pigan omkom och olyckeg af heta och rök i en Badstugan.” (I could not read the last part of the entries for Hans and Kiersten. Did they die of cold or freezing? Did Karin die of heat and smoke in a bath cabin?)
I also found Anders Christophersson in the mantalslängder for Hedemora in Norn or Nornsbruk. (SVAR) He is listed by name with a wife in the years from 1669-1688. From 1697-1701 Anders Christophersson is listed by name, but only the column for a son is checked. (year 1697 p.47; 1698p52; 1699p47; 1700p54; 1701p11) In 1702 p12 the columns for son and sons hustru are checked, and in 1703 p10 Christopher Andersson and hustru are listed. This information fits with the marriage record for Christopher Andersson and Anna Persdotter in 1701.
The mantals records also indicate, though do not prove, that Anders Christophersson’s father is Christopher Hansson. Christopher Hansson is listed in Hedemora Norns or Nornsbruk for the years 1645-1668. He is listed with a wife during some of those years and sometimes with children and children’s spouses. In 1688 p169 he is listed with a son and sons hustru. In 1669 p121 he is not listed, but Anders Christophersson is listed with a wife, dräng, and pigan.
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« skrivet: 2013-04-21, 00:31 »
Hej Leif. Thank you so much for your information that solves my puzzle! It did not occur to me that Anna could have married two men with the same name.
Anders Norman's death record is found in Hedemora FI:2 #8 (AD Online 78). He died 6 June 1755 in Nornsbruk and was buried 8 June apparently in Hedemora. His youngest child would have been only one year old at the time of his death.
I have some more information about the first Christopher Andersson, but I am posting it under Norns bruksförsamling as I thought that would be a better place for it.
Hälsningar
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2013-04-20, 02:14 »
First, my apologies for writing in English. I can read Swedish, but I do not write it well.
I recently found that I am a descendant of Per Grampre, so I was very interested in this discussion. Thank you all for your good information.
Here is a little information that may be of interest. I found Per (Petter/Peter) Grampre listed in these years in the Hedemora mantalslängder for Norns bruksfolcks. After 1674 and for other years not found below, most workers are not listed by name.
Year Page Norns bruksfolcks
1656 163 Petter Grampre, h, dot
1660 147 Bruks folk Petter Grampre, h, p
1662 173 Petter Grampre, h, p Massungs betiänte och bruksfolck
1663 47 Petter Grampre, h, p Massungs betiänte och bruksfolck
1664 47 Petter Grampre, h, p Massungs betiänte och bruksfolck
1665 50 Petter Grampre, h, p Massungs betiänte och bruksfolck
1666 54 Petter Grampre, h, p Massungs betiänte och bruksfolck
1668 170 Petter Grampre, h, son Norns bruksfolcks
1669 121 Petter Grampre, h, p
1673 42 Peter Grampre, h
1674 47 Petter Grampre Mäst, h, p
In Hedemora AI:3 (1704-1719) Norns bruk is found begining on page 240. My ancestor is listed as Anna Persd. Grampre on page 251, the wife of Christopher Andersson kolare. Her sister Kerstin Persd. Grampre is found on page 247, the wife of Christopher Pålssohn Masmäst.
According to the Norn parish records, Christopher Andersson and Anna Persdotter Grampre had four children: Anders 31 Aug 1702; Johannes 12 Nov 1705; Peter 29 Oct 1711; Maria 23 Jul 1715. I am descended from Anders, who was known as Anders Norman, hattmakare. He married Brita Möller 27 Sep 1741 in Säter and they had six children.
It appears that there are two marriage records for Christopher Andersson and Anna Persd. Grampre. In Norns bruksförsamling DII:1 p.88 it states Ao.1701 Christopher Andersson med Anna Pedersdotter. On page 89 1709 d: 14 Novembris d: 22 Trinit wigdes Christopher Andersson och hans hustru Anna Pärsdotter uti Maasmästertorpet I searched the husförhörslängder for Norns bruksförsamling that are found in the Hedemora records for the years 1698-1704 (AI:2 beginning p. 68) and 1704-1719, and found only the one Christopher Andersson. That there are two marriage records is a puzzle.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-09, 02:22 »
Hej Per! Here are some children of Bengt Tossengsson and Kerstin Andersdotter in Luned:
Maria f.6 Apr 1713
Annicka f.24 Nov 1714
Catharina f.23 Sep 1716
Anders f.8 Oct 1719
Leonard f.29 Nov 1721
Elin f.26 Feb 1724
There may be others that I do not have.
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« skrivet: 2007-04-09, 02:09 »
Hej Mats! Anders Olofsson in Åsbergstorp married Brita Arvidsdotter. In the dombok for 1669 it mentions widow Sigri Andersdotter in Åsbergstorp, her deceased husband Arvid Bengtsson and her children Olof and Brita Arvidsbarn who are to have the property. In 1670 Olof Arvidsson and his swåger Anders Olofsson are mentioned. In 1673 it mentions Anders Olofsson in Åsbergstorp and his brother Olof Olofsson in Lämås. Thus it appears that Anders Olofsson came from Lämås and married Brita Arvidsdotter in Åsbergstorp. Brita died 10 Apr 1716. The death record lists her age as 71, but she probably was not that old.
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« skrivet: 2005-03-21, 00:57 »
Hello Mats
I am sorry I cannot answer your question. I do not have any information about that family.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2005-01-09, 01:04 »
Hej Per!
Erik Matsson i Blinäs var gift Dn 26 a Trinit 1705 med Brita Eriksdotter i Brickegården, (Erik Jönsson's dotter)
Mvh Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2004-07-14, 22:09 »
JoLeen,
In the Nora birth records I found an Anders born 2 Mar 1785 christened 6 Mar 1785 in Öskevik whose parents were Eric Hansson and Cathrina Ersdotter. There was not an Anders born 3 April 1785. There were no other children named Anders who had a father named Erik born in 1785. (These are the Nora Bergsförsamling records. I did not look in the Nora Stadsförsamling records.)
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2004-07-14, 21:57 »
Hej Ingvar!
In the Karlskoga birth records I found an Ingeborg born 3 Oct 1734, christened 6 Oct 1734 in Äspsätter whose parents were Nils Danielsson and Annika Olsdotter.
mvh
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2004-07-14, 21:51 »
Hej Karl!
In the Karlskoga birth records I found a Lovisa born 28 Nov 1849, christened 2 Dec 1849 whose parents were Torp. Anders Magnusson and Cathrina Pettersdotter in Degernäs ägor. The mother was between 30 and 35 years of age at the time of her birth.
mvh
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2004-07-02, 22:54 »
Åsa & Harold The Nora Släktforskarklubb has births, deaths, and marriage records for Nora from 1860 through 1928 on their website: http://w1.587.telia.com/~u58703279/ Click on register. Kathleen Hedberg
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« skrivet: 2003-11-29, 02:46 »
Hej Kjell!
In the mantalslängder for Älvshyttan a Lars Dansson and wife are listed for the years 1676-1688. He is the only Lars listed in Älvshyttan during this time period. A dombok entry (23 May 1689)mentions Sal. Lars Danssons enkia på Elfshyttan, hustru Anna Simonsdotter. There is more information about other family members that I could send you if you think this is the right family.
MVH
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2003-10-25, 05:26 »
Is Västra Kattarp located in Kattarp? I am trying to help a friend whose ancestor was born in V.Kattarp in 1795, but we could not find him in the birth records for Kattarp.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2003-06-04, 18:21 »
What parish (församling)is Östra Skrävlinge in? Is it in Norra Skrävlinge or in Malmö Västra Skrävlinge?
mvh
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2003-04-16, 21:52 »
Hej Anita, Here is what I have found about Jordan Larsson. It seems that his parents are Lars Nilsson and Brita Månsdotter. Domböcker and mantalslängder show that Lars Nilsson was the only Lars in Skogskärr when Jordan was born, and that Brita Månsdotter was his wife. Presumably Måns Larsson and Nils Larsson are brothers of Jordan. A Lars Nilsson is listed in the mantalslängder in the 1650s with a wife Sigrid. It is not known whether she died and Lars later married Brita Månsdotter or whether there were two Lars Nilssons. Dombok entries in 1673 show that Brita Månsdotter was the daughter of Måns Pedersson of Bregårdstorp and the wife of Lars Nilsson in Skogskärr. Måns Pedersson's wife was Ingeborg Jordansdotter, which would account for the name Jordan. I have a website with some more details. This is the address: http://home.pmt.org/~khedberg/ Click on Karlskoga families, scroll down to the place index, and click on Bregårdstorp and Skogskärr. mvh Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2002-12-18, 20:29 »
Mats!
I think that these are the death dates for Anders Matsson and Gunilla Larsdotter in Bregårdstorp. Gunilla Larsdotter d. 11 Jul 1748 age 74
Anders Matsson d. 20 Apr 1750 age 89
If the ages are correct (and they often are not during this time period), Gunilla would have been born about 1674 and Anders about 1661.
I have not found anything that indicates who their parents were.
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« skrivet: 2001-12-05, 18:34 »
Peter Brisback!
Here is the information that I have about Lars Larsson of Sibbo, son of Lars Andersson:
Lars Larsson is listed in the mantalslängder beginning in 1692, and in the domböcker 1693, 1702,1709,1719. His children are listed in the birth records:
Catharina 19 Jul 1691
Brita 18 Sep 1692
Johan 25 Mar 1694
Anders 7 Mar 1696
Karin 29 Apr 1700
Erik 28 Aug 1702
Gertrud 11 Mar 1705
Lars 9 Jun 1708
Annika Månsdotter is listed as the mother of Lars Larsson, but I do not have any other information about her.
I do not know whether Anders Larsson (7 Mar 1696) went to Torpskog. (Another Anders Larsson is born in Sibbo 26 Nov 1708. His parents are Lars Månsson and Kerstin Andersdotter.)
Lars Larsson's father, Lars Andersson appears in the mantalslängder from 1653-1699, and is listed frequently in the domböcker between 1670 and 1701. He died 12 Dec 1719. He is listed as age 98, which would mean he was born in 1621, but he probably was not that old. His wife was Gertrud Påvelsdotter. Her name is listed in the 1659 mantalslängd, and in the dombok in 1719 as salig. She died 1 Apr 1715, age 78. If her age is correct, she would have been born in 1637.
Their children were: (order of birth is not known)
1. possibly Margareta Larsdotter who married Anders Ersson of Fornäs, and is listed often as a witness
2. Brita Larsdotter, (dombok 1701) md Per Eskilsson of Stråbergsmyran
3. Anders Larsson (dombok 1683)
4. Lars Larsson
5. Påvel Larsson (dombok 1695,1700 lives in Sibbo)
6. Agnes Larsdotter (see Bjurtjärn entry)
Lars Andersson was the son of Anders Andersson of Sibbo. The name of Lars Andersson's mother is not known, but the dombok entries for 1668,1670,1684, and 1691 mention Elin Larsdotter as the step-mother. Anders Andersson's children are listed in the dombok entry for 1684 and are: Marit, Lars, Elin, Anders, Halvard, Ingrid, Kerstin, and Måns. (Måns is my direct ancestor.)
Anders Andersson's father was also named Anders Andersson. There are many references to Anders Andersson in the mantalslängder and domböcker, but it is not always clear which one is being referred to. Anders of Sibbo is mentioned in the Landskopshandlingar beginning in 1599.
I hope this will be helpful!
Kathleen Hedberg
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« skrivet: 2001-12-01, 20:26 »
Hej Mats och Bengt!
Concerning Agnes Larsdotter in Boviken:
I think that she comes from Sibbo, Karlskoga, where my ancestors come from. In the Sibbo mantalslängd for 1693 Lars Andersson is listed with sons Lars and Påhl and dotter Agnes. (Agnes is not listed again in the mantalslängder.) In the birth records Anders i Bovyken is listed as a witness for Lars Larsson's child, Johan Larsson, born 25 Mar 1694 in Sibbo. Thus it appears that Agnes Larsdotter from Sibbo married Anders Persson of Boviken in late 1693 or early 1694--which exactly fits the estimated time of marriage. Also, since Sibbo was so far away from Boviken, it seems likely that there would be a relationship between the witnesses and the parents of the children.
If you are interested in more information about Lars Andersson and family in Sibbo, let me know and I will reply in the Karlskoga forum.
Hälsningar
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-11-19, 18:59 »
Hej Mats!
I have a Kerstin Jonsdotter born 26 Jul 1717 in Hållsjötorp, Karlskoga. Her mother was Karin Jönsdotter, but her father was Johan Philipsson. I did not find a marriage for Jan Gunnarsson and Karin Jonsdotter in 1717, but there is one 25 Nov 1713 for Jan Gunnarsson and Karin Jonsdr, a widow in Bregårdstorp.
This may be more confusing than helpful. If you want more information, let me know.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-10-28, 04:55 »
Hej Inger
I have some information about the Jordans in Karlskoga and Bjurtjärn. Most of what I have is the same as what you have, but there are a few differences.
Tabell 1
My records show Jordan Arvidsson, Bergsman in Brickegården (sometimes called Brickegårdstorp) was the father of Måns, Nils, and Mats.
Tabell 3
My records show that Jordan Månsson's oldest daughter was named Marit. All the other information is the same. Also there is another daughter named Maria born 13 Mar 1681 who married Jordan Bengtsson of Lervik.
Tabell 6
Mats Jordansson was married to Anna (mantalslängder 1653-1659)
Their son Jordan Matsson (born 1646 in Brickegården) married Ingrid Olsdotter. They had several children, among whom was a son Jordan Jordansson, born 31 Jul 1681, who married Elin Johansdotter. (I have written more about this family in the anbytarforum for Karlskoga, 29 March 2001 and 3 April 2001.)
Jordan Jordansson and Elin Johansdotter had a son Johan Jordansson, born 19 Feb 1720 in Brickegården. Johan Jordansson married Maria Nilsdotter 2 Feb 1747. Maria Nilsdotter was born in Älgåsen 18 Nov 1725. They had 13 children. One was Jordan Jansson, born 1 Apr 1753 in Älgåsen. This is probably your Jordan Jansson, although I have no information about who he married.
I hope this will be helpful. Best regards
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-10-07, 04:41 »
Stefan Björn!
I have some information on Erik Jansson Sarve who married Kristina Henriksdotter Björndal. I found the family in Karlskoga in the husförhörslängd in Blinäs 1797-1801, and in Kvarntorp 1802-1830. However, Erik is listed as Erik Jansson Wahlström, smed. His wife is Kristina Henriksdotter Björndal, born 1 October 1760 in Lideforsbruk, Nysund. Do you think that Erik Jansson Sarve changed his name to Wahlström when he moved to Karlskoga? Or could this be a second marriage for Kristina? I could not find a marriage record in Karlskoga, and there is no indication that these are step-children of Erik Jansson Wahlström. The children are Johan, born 1781; Henrik, born 1783; Erik, born 1786; Maria, born 1790; Karl, born 1799. I found Karl's birth in Karlskoga: 7 Nov 1799. I also found a death record for Erik Jansson in Kvarntorp, Karlskoga: 15 Jan 1827 age 77. I had searched for, but had not found, birth records for Erik Jansson and his other children. I was searching in Karlskoga, not in Visnum.
Henrik Björndal, Kristina's father, was born in Björneborgs bruk, Visnum, and died in Kvarntorp, Karlskoga.
I don't have any more information about Erik Jansson's family. My ancestor is Kristina's brother, Elias Henriksson Björndal, who was born in Björneborgs bruk, Visnum, 26 Nov 1769, and also moved to Kvarntorp, Karlskoga, where he died. I hope this information will be helpful for you.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-09-02, 18:16 »
I read with interest about Henrik BJÖRNDAL. My farmor, Kristina Björndahl emigrated from Utterbäck, Karlskoga to USA in 1890. Her ffff was Henrik Eliasson Björndal, born 23 Jun 1733 at Björneborgsbruk, Visnum. His parents were Elias Svensson (1700-1768) and Annika Persdotter. I have not found birth records for Elias Svensson or Annika Persdotter, but I found a marriage record in Varnum 28 Dec 1730 for Elias Svensson from Björneborgshammar and Annika Persdotter from Holmen. I found a death record in Visnum for widow Annika Persdotter 30 May 1773 age 78 in Björneborgsbruk. She is the right age to be the daughter of Pierre du Beau, but was she born in Visnum or Varnum? (There are no birth records for Varnum between 1688 and 1700.) I am interested in anything about this family that anyone else has found. (I am sorry I cannot write in Swedish, but I can read Swedish.)
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« skrivet: 2001-05-27, 05:13 »
Hello Bengta,
Here is some information about Jacob Persson in Gälleråsen: The court record (dombok) 9 Mar 1717 mentions in an oppbud Anders Andersson of Gräsholmstorp med sin farbroder Jacob Persson i Gälleråsen. Anders Andersson's father is Anders Persson of Gräsholmstorp; Anders Persson's father is Per Gälarsson. If Jacob Persson is a farbroder to Anders Andersson, he would be a brother of Anders Persson and son of Per Gälarsson.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-04-03, 19:01 »
Hello Per-Åke and Pehr,
Here is some information about the Jordan Jordansson family. A note about Jordan's wife, Elin Johansdotter: The marriage record states that she was born in Strömmedet. I could not find an Elin Johansdotter born in Strömmedet, but I found one born in Strömtorp. I thought that was my Elin Johansdotter, and listed her on the records that I sent to the Karlskoga hembygdförening. Later, I found that this was not the right person. In doing further research, I found that Johan Nilsson from Strömmed had lived in Duvadalen where his wife Margareta Larsdotter was born, and later moved to Strömmed. Thus, his daughter Elin Johansdotter was born in Duvadalen, but was living in Strömmed at the time of her marriage. Here is the family:
Jordan JORDANSSON was christened on 31 Jul 1681 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. He died on 22 Mar 1749 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was buried on 2 Apr 1749 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
Jordan married Elin JOHANSDOTTER, daughter of Johan NILSSON and Margareta LARSDR, on 9 Oct 1704 in Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. Elin was christened on 11 Sep 1681 in Duvedalen, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. She died on 15 Jun 1762 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was buried on 20 Jun 1762 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
They had the following children:
i. Annika JORDANSDOTTER was born on 12 Oct 1705 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 15 Oct 1705 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
ii. Maria JORDANSDOTTER was born on 30 Apr 1707 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 5 May 1707 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. She died on 23 Jan 1789.
Maria married Olof OLSSON about 1729 in of Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. Olof was born in 1699 in of Lindås, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
iii. Matthias JORDANSSON was born on 9 Aug 1708 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 16 Aug 1708 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
Matthias married Karin PÄRSDOTTER on 14 Mar 1734 in Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. Karin was born on 14 Feb 1707 in Råbäck, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 17 Feb 1707 in Råbäck, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
iv. Nils JORDANSSON was born on 19 Aug 1710 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 21 Aug 1710 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. He died on 1 Sep 1785 in Utterbäck, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
Nils married Agnes JONSDOTTER, daughter of Jon OLSSON and Brita HANSDOTTER, on 13 Jun 1734 in Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. Agnes was christened on 30 Jun 1696 in Utterbäck, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. She died on 18 Jan 1774 in Utterbäck, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was buried on 30 Jan 1774 in Utterbäck, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
v. Brigitta JORDANSDOTTER was born on 25 Feb 1713 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 1 Mar 1713 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
Brigitta married Pär NILSSON on 22 Sep 1745 in Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. Pär was born on 8 Dec 1714 in Våtsjötorp, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 12 Dec 1714 in Våtsjötorp, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
vi. Jordan JORDANSSON was born on 12 Jun 1715 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 19 Jun 1715 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
vii. Johan JORDANSSON was born on 19 Feb 1720 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 21 Feb 1720 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
Johan married Maria NILSDOTTER on 2 Feb 1747 in Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. Maria was born on 18 Nov 1725 in Älgåsen, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 21 Nov 1725 in Älgåsen, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
viii. Lars JORDANSSON was born on 10 Aug 1721 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 13 Aug 1721 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
ix. Erik JORDANSSON was born on 9 Jun 1723 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden and was christened on 14 Jun 1723 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden. He died on 28 May 1724 in Brickegården, Karlskoga, Örebro, Sweden.
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« skrivet: 2001-03-29, 19:06 »
Åke: Thank you for your information. It was most helpful.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-03-29, 18:49 »
Magnus Jordan:
I do not know about Jordan in Grythyttan, but it is a common name in Karlskoga, and there is a discussion about this name in the anbyterforum, Karlskoga socken.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-03-29, 18:25 »
Hello Per-Åke:
Your Brita Jordansdotter is probably Brigitta Jordansdotter, f.25 Feb 1713 i Brickegården, dotter til Jordan Jordansson & Elin Johansdotter. (I looked at the microfilm copy of the original marriage record for Per Nilsson & Brita Jordansdotter. The place is hard to read, but I think it is Brickegården.) My ancestor, Nils Jordansson, f.19 Aug 1710, is a brother to Brigitta, so I have a lot of information about this family: Jordan Jordansson f.31 Jul 1681 til Jordan Matsson & Ingrid Olofsdr; Jordan Matsson f.1646 (d.16 May 1710) til Mats Jordansson & Anna; Mats Jordansson f. til Jordan Arvidsson, all of Brickegården. See the earlier discussion about the Jordans of Karlskoga. I have more details about this family and information about the mother, Elin Johansdotter f.11 Sep 1681 i Duvadalen. If you are interested, and have a genealogy program that can read a Gedcom file, I could send it to you. I hope this will be helpful. Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-03-09, 16:25 »
Anette:
Petters far, Hans Pettersson, födde 3 Nov 1689, gift 27 Sep 1713 med Brita Andersdotter från Skåmmen, död 22 Jun 1751. Hans Petterssons far: Petter Hansson Lang gift med Kerstin Andersdotter. Petter Hansson Langs far: Hans Lang. See earlier discussion on the Lang family.
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« skrivet: 2001-02-18, 18:09 »
To Eva Carlsson:
I looked in the birth records for Karlskoga for the year 1792, and could not find a child Per born to a father called Wärme. Nor is there a child Per born 1792-05-02. There are many children named Per born on other days in 1792.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2001-02-18, 18:03 »
To Bengt Svensson:
I looked in the Karlskoga birth records for the year 1799. I did not find a record for a child Jacob born to a father named Isak or Bröstrom. However there is this entry: Jacob född 7 May 1799, oäkta i Bregården, moder: Maja Jansdr; vittne: Lars Modig, h.Brita Olsdr, Jan Pärsson, h.Brita Nilsdr i Bregården.
I hope this will help.
Kathleen Hedberg
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« skrivet: 2001-01-14, 01:22 »
Does anyone know about Fabricius in Grythyttan? My ancestor is Anna Fabricia, born about 1660, died 12 May 1721 in Brunsjötorp, Grythyttan, married to nämndeman Erik Nilsson. There is a Jacob Fabricius, kyrkoherde, in Grythyttan at this time. I am wondering if he is Anna's father, and if he is related to any of the other Fabricius. (Excuse me for writing in English. I can read Swedish, but do not write it well.)
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« skrivet: 2000-08-30, 00:06 »
To Bengt Nordstrand and others interested in Jordan of Brickegården:
Here is some information that I have about him and his descendants: I have found him listed in early tax records between 1591 and 1621 in Brickegårdstorp, with the surname Arvidsson (Aruesson) in 1610 and 1611. An Olof Arvidsson is listed in Brickegården at the same time, with Arvid listed in 1590. Likely Olof and Jordan were brothers, and sons of Arvid.
Jordan Arvidsson likely had these five children: Nils, Arvid, Måns, Ingeborg, and Mats. There is good evidence that Arvid and Mats are sons of Jordan, and they remain in Brickegården or Brickegårdstorp. The evidence for the other three children is more circumstantial.
Nils Jordansson is listed along with Jordan Arvidsson in the 1611 tax record for Brickegårdstorp, and in 1612 without a last name. He is not mentioned again in Brickegårdstorp. In 1613 a Nils Jordansson is mentioned for the first time in Kvarntorp, and there are many subsequent references to him. He married Bengta Persdotter and had several children. It is likely that the Nils Jordansson in Kvarntorp is the same person as the Nils Jordansson in Brickegårdstorp and that he was the son of Jordan Arvidsson.
Måns Jordansson (salig) is mentioned in the 1670 court record stating that he had not purchased half hemmanet Bryttiegårdstorp, but rather Mattes Jordansson. A Måns Jordansson is mentioned in several tax and court records in Bregårdstorp between 1616 and 1656, and in 1664: “Item: sal. Måns Jordanssons och Måns Pedherssons...barn... Gunnila Gunnarsdr och hennes barn, Oluff, Arffwid, Jöns, Jordan, Johan, och Gunnar Månsessoner. Item: Ingeborgh Jordansdr och hennes barn, Per, Ingrid, Bengta, Kirstin, St. Brita, Marit, och L. Brita Månses barn, samt Kirstin Månsdr [from a previous marriage with] Brita Persdr.”
In the 1674 court record is noted that Jordan Månsson (Måns Jordansson's son) sold land in Bregårdstorp to Gunnar Månsson. A court record entry in 1686 dealing with Jordan Matsson's of Brickegården “tienstaflicka” mentions “Jordan i Stenkullan, Jordan Matssons syskonesbarn.” Other records show that Jordan i Stenkullan is Jordan Månsson, and since Jordan Matsson is the son of Mats Jordansson, if Måns Jordansson of Bregårdstorp was a brother to Matts Jordansson and father to Jordan Månsson, Jordan Månsson and Jordan Matsson would be syskonesbarn.
There is no evidence linking Ingeborg Jordansdotter with this family; however, her name, and the fact that she is the right approximate age, make it possible for her to be a daughter of Jordan Arvidsson.
My mf mf f is Nils Jordansson, born 1761 in Sibbo. His ff ff is Jordan Matsson, born 1646 (according to death record) in Brickegården, the son of the Mats Jordansson noted above.
Nils Jordansson's mm ff is Jordan Arvidsson, who lives in Lerängen from 1670-1697 according to tax and court records. His daughter Brita is married to Jon Olsson. According to the court record of 1694, Jon Olsson wants land in Brickegården that belonged to “sin swärfader” which shows that Jordan Arvidsson is likely the son of the Arvid Jordansson noted above.
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« skrivet: 2000-08-19, 01:28 »
Thank you, Christina, Göran, & Ulf for information about Henrik Siliakusson.
I have sent some source material that I have about Tällekullen to Kjell Nordqvist (Karlskoga Berglags Hembygdsförening)via e-mail attachment, and will also send a paper copy. It consists of extracts from the mantals and other tax records, and extracts from domböcker pertaining to Tällekullen, from the earliest records I could find to 1711 for the tax records and about 1720 for the court records. I copied these quite awhile ago for my own use, so they are a mixture of Swedish and English, as I summarized parts in English, and copied some words in Swedish.
Kathleen
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« skrivet: 2000-07-31, 00:37 »
Till Hans Egeskog (Hasse) & Bengt Nordstrand
I am a new user of the Internet, who recently found this site. (I can read Swedish, but cannot write well--I hope you do not mind my writing in English.)
I was interested in your earlier discussion about Tallekullen, as my roots also go back there. The information I had about Hans Hansson Lang's descendants is the same as yours, but I did not have anything about his parents. I am so pleased to have this information about his German roots.
Perhaps I can add some additional information about his family. He is my ancestor on two lines whose common descendant was Nils Nilsson (b.1765):
My fm Kristina Bjorndahl, born 24 Nov 1869 in Sibbo, Karlskoga: mm f Nils Nilsson b. 27 Jan 1765 in Sibbohult: fm f Hans Henriksson b.1667 probably in Bjorkmo(d.28 Jul 1741 a.74) f Henrik Hansson Lang (b.1644), f Hans Hansson Lang (b.1607).
Nils Nilsson (b.1765) mm f Hans Henriksson b.abt 1668 probably in Sibbohult/Osterhult, m Katarina Hansdotter b.abt 1648, f Hans Hansson Lang (b.1607).
Hans Hansson Lang (b.1607) listed in Valasen, Tallekullen, & Utterback
children:
Henrik Hansson Lang b.1644 to Bjorkmo
Katarina Hansdotter b.abt 1648
Hans Hansson Lang b.abt 1651 hammarsmed in Valasen
Petter Hansson Lang b.abt 1653 to Utterback
Johan Hansson Lang b.abt 1656 to Tallekullen
Anders Hansson Lang b.abt 1657 to Tallekullen
Henrik Hansson Lang (b.1644) md Elin Nilsdotter of Bjorkmo
children:
Hans Henriksson b.1667 (d.28 Jul 1741 a.74)
Nils Henriksson b.abt 1670
Maria Henriksdotter b.abt 1675
Henrik Henriksson b.15 Feb 1680
Katarina Henriksdotter b.23 Oct 1681
Anna Henriksdotter b.25 Feb 1683
Elin Henriksdotter b.abt 1685
Margareta Henriksdotter b.4 May 1688
Katarina Hansdotter (b.abt 1648) md Henrik Siliaksson, Hammarsmed in Valasen, seven children
Hans Hansson Lang (b.abt 1655) md N.N., five children
Petter Hansson Lang (b.abt 1653) md Kerstin Andersdotter, four children, lived in Utterback
Johan Hansson Lang (b.abt 1656) md Kerstin Matsdotter (f.Mats Jordansson of Brickegarden)
eight children
Anders Hansson Lang (b.abt 1657) md Margareta Eliasdotter (f.probably Elias Bryngelsson of Bofors)
no children: They take Henrik Hansson Lang's (Bjorkmo) son Nils Henriksson to look after them in their old age and inherit their land. (see Dombok 8 Sep 1708)
Sources for all of this come mainly from mantals and dombok entries, with the births of some of the children found in the parish records. Here are some of the most important entries:
1674 (spring) Hans Lang hammarsmed wid Valasen has brief for half cronohemmanet Utterback from Anders Andersson i Utterback for 230 Kmt
1674 (spring) purchase in Tallekullen
1699 (fall) Hammarsmeden Master Hans Lang said that in Aug. 1689 he had left Valase Hammar, and hans mag Master Hindrick Siliachsson had taken his place... he is now over 80 years old
1700 (spring)Lars Nilsson i Utterback...hans Antecessor Petter Lang, des broder Hans Hansson Lang... Hammarsmeden Hindrick Siliachsson, hans svarfader Hans Lang... gammal hammarsmeden Mast. Hans Lang & hans 2 sonner Hans & Petter Langar
1709 (spring) Hammarsmeden's Hindrick Seliacksson's widow h. Cathrina Hansdr & hennes son Hans Hindricksson i Sibbohult
Bouppteckning 1724: sal. Hindrik Hansson & ank. Elin Nilsdr & deras barn: Hans, Nils, Mariya, Cattarina, Anna, Elin, och Margareta Hindriksbarn
The approximated dates of birth listed above are only guesses, as is the order in which the children were born. I have found, however, that even though a birth date is a guess, it helps me keep track of people.
I have a lot more data that is too much to include here. However, I will send the part that pertains to the Hans Lang family to Kjell Nordqvist at the Hembygdsforenings arkiv.
I would like to make available to researchers all the data that I have collected over the years. Even though I am an American trying to read old Swedish, and have probably made some mistakes, you can always check with the original source. Most of what I have is on an out-dated database program. I can print it, but I would like to find a way to convert it to a more modern program so that it would be easier to search. I plan to get in touch with Gunnar Jonsson (Varmlands Kyrkboksregister) to see if he can help me. Or does anyone else have any suggestions?
Also, I have a question concerning Henrik Siliaksson who married Katarina Hansdotter. I have been trying to standarize my names according to Hakan Skogsjo's Slaktforskarforbundets namnlista, but I cannot find anything like the name Siliak. (I found it spelled Siljakobsson in one place.) Has anyone heard of this name before? Could he also be a smith from Germany?
I was interested in the question of the origin of the Jordans, as many are also my ancestors, but that is a topic for another day.
I think this is a wonderful way to exchange information and find out what others are doing, and look forward to conversing with you and others about our Karlskoga roots.
Kathleen Hedberg
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« skrivet: 2000-07-25, 04:57 »
An ancestor in Karlskoga, Orebro, is listed as Illert Eriksson in the mantals record nine times, and once as Hillert Eriksson. His children, born in Karlskoga between 1697-1712 are Margreta Hillartsdr, 3 Jan 1697; Elias Hillartsson, 15 Jun 1698; Erich Hillartsson, 2 Feb 1700; Maria Ilertsdr, 18 Mar 1702; Petter Elartsson, 1 Apr 1708; and Illert Illertsson, 4 May 1712. I have been trying to standarize the names of my ancestors as suggested by Hakan Skogsjo in Slaktforskarforbundents namnlista, but am not sure what to do about Illert. What do you suggest?
Kathleen Hedberg
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