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Titel: Looking for suggestions on how to proceed my research
Skrivet av: Victoria Cihla skrivet 2020-12-11, 20:44
First, I apologize if this is something more than I should put here, but I'll give it try in case someone is willing to take to the time to read through it all. I've to make it as concise as possible, so I appreciate any suggestions you can offer.
I am trying to determine which Lars is the father of my ancestor Pehr Larsson and his brother Anders Larsson who were born in Miäla (Torpa parish) in 1725 and 1731 respectively. These are the only two siblings I have found for this family. It may be that they were from somewhere else and that there were more children earlier, but I have not found any children born after Anders.
Birth records Pehr Larsson born 26 Jan 1725 Miäla, son of Lars, mother not listed - who is his father? Torpa-G-C-1-1690-1747-Image-81-Page-157 https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30192?image=81
Anders Larsson born 30 July 1731, son of Lars, mother not listed Torpa-G-C-1-1690-1747-Image-87-Page-169 https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30192?image=87
Household records for Miäla 1717-1723 On page 61 there is listed a Pehr (age 67) with wife Ingier (age 54) and son Jonas – may or may not be related to Per Larsson (maybe his grandfather? May be a stretch) Torpa-G-AI-1-1717-1722-Image-41-Page-61.jpg https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v19646?image=41
On page 62 in Miala is listed a Giermund (age 57) with wife (age 33) a daughter Ingier (age 15 - crossed out with a note having to do with Skeen I think) and a son Giermund (erased?). Further down on the page are listed the names Lars and wife Gunnil with no additional detail (no children). I believe that Giermund and Ingier are Gunnil’s parents. Torpa-G-AI-1-1717-1722-Image-42-Page-63.jpg https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v19646?image=42
Marriage record If the parents were married in Torpa (and I know that is a big if), there are a couple possibilities:
The following marriage could explain the family’s connection to Miäla. However, the names Måns and Gunnil don’t seem to fit into the naming pattern (although I only know of two children: Per and Anders for this family). It would also fit with the timing of their first child Per. 23 Dec 1723 marriage between Drangan Lars Månsson from Skeen (Annerstad parish) and Pigan Gunnil Giermundsdotter in Miäla. Torpa-G-C-1-1690-1747-Image-98-Page-191 https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30192?image=98
This Lars would seem to explain the son named Per but the marriage took place at least a year after son Per was born (which is possible I realize) but there is no direct connection to Miäla. 1726 marriage between Drangan Lars Pehrsson of Abbeshult (Vrå parish) and Pigan Ingeborg Johansdotter in Gashult (Torpa parish) Torpa-G-C-1-1690-1747-Image-99-Page-193 https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30192?image=99
I also realize there may have been more than one marriage here – there is a six year age difference between the siblings. Maybe there are 2 different fathers named Lars?
Tax records for Miäla – not sure how to tell if they are married, it seems only the husbands are listed 1723 Giermund 1724 Sven and Lars, Giermund and Gumme 1725 Sven, Lars and Jonas (or Jöns) 1726 Sven, Lars and p. Ingierd 1727 Sven, Lars, Gumme 1728 Sven, Bengt, Per Nilsson (there is a 1727 marriage record for a Pehr Nilsson who married174 an Ingier Giermundsdotter in Miäla -probably the sister of Gunnil Giermundsdotter). 1729 Sven, Lars Persson (this is the first time a last name is given) 1730 Sven w/daughter Brita, Lars Persson 1731 Sven Bengtsson, p. Kirstin, Lars Persson 1732 -1740 Lar is listed without a last name 1744 Sven Bengtsson, Lars Månsson (wife crippled) and son Per (under age 15) The Per Larsson whose father I am trying to identify would have been 19 years old in 1744. 1745 Sven Svensson, Lars Månsson (wife crippled) and son Per. And a Jöns Larsson. 1746 Sven Svensson, Oluf Svensson, p. Kierstin, Lars Mansson (with a note – did he move out?, and a Jöns Larsson. Mantalslängder-1642-1820-Kronobergs-län-1642-1820-G-53-1746-Image-2440-Page-977 https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v840177?image=2440&page=977 1747 No Lars is listed.
Death record I found the following record (is this the death record for the wife of Lars Månsson?) dated 28 Mar 1747, buried 6 April: Torpa-G-C-1-1690-1747-Image-121-Page-233 https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30192?image=121
Does anyone have any suggestions or comments for what they feel is likely or unlikely here? At first glance, it seemed like the Lars Mansson who married Gunnil Giermundsdotter was the likely father based on marriage date and timing of birth of Per in January 1725. But, the first time Lars Mansson is listed with full name in the tax records there was in 1744 (not that an earlier Lars (with no last name) could not have been him also). That a Lars Persson appeared in the tax records there for three years (1729-1731) is also confusing as Per’s brother Anders was born in 1731.
It’s a head scratcher. 😊
Not sure where to go next with this as I’ve looked through all the records I can think of. Maybe it is another one I’ll have to set aside for now. But, I’m open for suggestions!