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Titel: SV: Maja Caisa Safgren Birth & Death Certificates
Skrivet av: Staffan Bergh skrivet 2019-07-16, 20:14
Hi again ...
So, australian, not american, sorry for that ... :) Should have guessed from the times when you're active!
Here's an unsorted list of remarks I have after I've had a look at your stuff; but first let me say that I am no expert on the norwegian archives (not really on the swedish ones, either, but at least those are the ones I usually work in), and I see you have a very active thread @ Digitalarkivet (https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/235561-palmstrom-family-search/), and those guys will be a lot better at that than me ...
I don't see the Johan Carl Palmström that left Kragerø for the States, etc, on the tree on the web site. The Kragerø branch of Palmströms from the web site only starts in the 1850's with Lorenz P. #36 moving there and getting married. None of his would have been old enough to get on a ship to the States until in the 1870's.
On the other hand you do have the Johan Carl Palmström that was born in Arendal in 1829 moving to Kragerø in time for moving on to the States ... Petersen/Peterson would be his patronymic.
The Anders Palmström, in Floby (P), that's mentioned in the DA thread, is Andreas Palmström, #374 on the Palmstrøm web site. None of his kids fit the Johan Peter that comes to Kristiansand and makes master carpenter before 1802 (when he marries).
The birth record for Johan Reinhold Palmström in Nedre Ullerud that you found is an illustration of my point above about the indexes ... Johan Reinhold Palmström was baptized 1684-12-09 in Nedre Ullerud, and died on the battlefield at Poltava in 1709. See here, (the first) table 3 (https://www.adelsvapen.com/genealogi/Palmstr%C3%B6m_nr_867) (and yes, I know, it's a second or third hand source ... but I have confirmed that the birth in 1784 does not exist.)
The christian names Anna, Maria, Johan, Gustav, Peter, Carl, etc are not specific to nobility -- in fact they are very common swedish (and norwegian) names among all strata of society
Elgenstierna was obviously wrong about the Palmström line dying out in 1746 ...
I do think the Palmströms in Bohuslän, Älvsborg, Skaraborg and Värmland are a much better fit as ancestry for someone that went to Kristiansand in the late seventeen-hundreds. It looks like there are some loose ends in the tree, maybe one of them had a son?
I also think that the Johan Peter in Uppsala is a false track -- I really do think his father was an P. Almström, not a Palmström, and it's unlikely a "Bet", regardless of if he's a butler, or a lower official, would turn up as a carpenters apprentice 20 years later, clear across the country and into the next. Actually, Johan Peter himself is a better fit -- if he's a Palmström, and if we ignore the carpenters age at death; but we would need to follow him to Kristiansand! Not easy, given that the only thing we've seen of him is his birth record. Maybe he promply died, as happened altogether too often ...
I'll add a link to this thread in the one at DA, for the benefit of future genealogists.