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Looking for family of two sisters who came from Aneby, Småland.
Josephine Sophia Andersson, born Aug 17, 1864
Anna (Elvira or Aloria) Andersson, born Dec 2, 1873
Both immigrated to American and lived in Chicago.
Sophia married Johan Stenberg from Gottland.
Anna married Alfred Andersson from ???.
Would like to learn more about their family.
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Hi Ralph!
I found two girls that could be your family.
In CD-emigranten in the program Emihamn I have found this girl.
Anderson Josefina S. 20 year woman from Bälaryd (is very near Aneby) in Jönköpings län.
She left Sweden 8/4 1887 from Göteborg to Chicago. (Källkod; 31:359:2033)
The other girl is
Anna Andersson 17 year woman from Bälaryd. Left Sweden from Göteborg 17/3 1891. (Källkod; 44:267:5325)
The town Aneby doesn't have own church. It's belong to others.
Could this girl bee yours?
I see 5 person call Stenberg Johan from Gotland (I) Needed to be more specific.
sincerly elisabet
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Ralph!
In found Anna Elvina at Mosstugan, Skarsjö, Bäleryd.
Could not find the other girl. Not in birth records or as sister to Anna.
Here the household record:
(https://forum.rotter.se/discus/messages/2450/87929.jpg)
Regards
Olle
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Ralph!
Here better result from time of emigration with both sisters:
(https://forum.rotter.se/discus/messages/2450/87930.jpg)
Olle
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Thank you Elisabet! Thank you Olle!
This is the correct family. We spent a long time last night looking at the husförhör and learning everything we could.
On the 1886-1892 husförhör, we think that line 7 is a step-son. We believe he is Matilda's son from an earlier marriage. I think the Swedish 'oäkta s.'would be English 'step son'?
Can you tell from this source, what his original last name is? We think it is something like 'Blutwin'.
We believe the daughter Emma Salide was still alive in 1952 and living in Aneby. Do you have any suggestions on trying to locate her children or grand-children?
Again, thank you very much,
Ralph and Cheryl
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Oäkta means illegitimate and hennes oäkta son is her illegitimate son. Although in the case of Carl born 58 he is also a step-son...
The other children in that record are Gemens. barn (gemensamma barn = joint/common children).
Carl's surname can not be seen here, but according to HFL 1881-1885 page 187 (GID 1078.25.24100) he moved to Solberga(?) 1881-10-05.
This seems to be Emma Salida from the 1947-2003 deathbook:
18760718-242
Gustafsson f. Andersdotter, Emma Salida
Fridhem
Dead 4/27/1964.
Registered in Bälaryd, Bredestads kn (Jönköpings län, Småland).
Born 7/18/1876 in Bälaryd (Jönköpings län, Småland).
Widow (12/24/1957).
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Probably her husband:
18800114-241
Gustafsson, Gustaf Edvard
Skärsjö, Mostugan
Dead 12/24/1957.
Registered in Bälaryd, Bredestads kn (Jönköpings län, Småland).
Born 1/14/1880 in Flisby (Jönköpings län, Småland).
Married man (3/9/1905).
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// Bo Johansson
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Hello Ralph and Cheryl!
What do you mean about Can you tell from this source, what his original last name is? We think it is something like 'Blutwin'.?
If you like total transport to english.
No 1.
Crofter's holding Anders Svensson (with family)born 4 april 1831 in Lommaryd parish.(Lommaryd belongs to Aneby municipality like Bälaryd parish).
Wife: Lovisa Fredrika Carlsdotter(Carls daughter) born 4 february 1834 in Flisby parish (Flisby is near Aneby but belongs to Nässjö municipality)
her illegitimate son Carl born 21 february 1858 in Bälaryd.
There joint/common children: All born in Bälaryd,
Daughter Eva Charlotta born 31 july 1860
Daughter Amanda born 8 april 1862
Daughter Josefina Sofia born 21 august 1866
Daughter Anna Elvina born 2 december 1973.
No 2.
Crofter's holding Anders Svensson (Enkl.=widower)born 4 april 1731 in Lommaryd parish married 9 mars? 1858 with wife Lovisa Fredrika Carlsdotter born 4 february 1834 in Flisby parish. Die 30 december 1888.
New wife Matilda Johannesdotter born 24 january 1849 in Lommaryd parish married 12 november 1889. (Come from page 113 to this side 4 december 1889).
Daughter Anna Elvina born 2 december 1973 Tavel to North America 13 mars 1991.
Daughter Emma Salide born 18 july 1876 in Bälaryd.
Daughter Josefina Sofia born 21 august 1866 in Bälaryd, she has been in Flisby and arrived 11 november 1886, Travel to North America 31 mars 1887.
Her illegitimate son (Matilda's) Karl Axel born 24 november 1881 in Bälaryd.
There joint/common daughter Ida Maria Linnea born 16 september 1890 in Bälaryd, die 23 november 1890.
The last name of the children must be Andersson or Andersdaughter.
No last name for the wifes illegitimated sons.
I hope you will understand now.
Regards Elisabet
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Hi!
The easiest way to trace the children of Emma Salida Gustafsson would be to contact the relevant C?unty Archives and ask for a copy of the estate inventory deed (bouppteckning), which always is made after a person has died. It lists the heirs as well as the property of the deseased person. For Jönköping, the County Archives are located in Vadstena and can be reached at the following e-mail address: landsarkivet@landsarkivet-vadstena.ra.se
Good luck with your research! Best regards from Susanne
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Apropå det Olle skrev 26 april could not find the other girl - Josefina Sofia is on the HFL copy he appended. Just above Anna...
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Dear Ralph, Cheryl and others writing on this subject,
I heard from a friend (thank you Nils!)
of my mother, who saw your message, that you were asking about a family that were living in Mosstugan, outside Aneby.
I think I can provide you with information on one person: Axel Andersson, (illegitimate)son of Mathilda Johannesdotter. He was my grand-father on my mothers side. He married to Helga and they worked together at different farms in the area around Aneby. Then they moved to Bodafors, also in Smaland, and got 2 sons and 3 daugthers. My mother, Asta (now 86), is the only child of Axel who is still alive.
I can provide you with more information on Axels life if you wish? Please write to my hotmail larsingen@hotmail.com if so. And maybe the reason for that you are searching information?
My mother and I would appreciate if your contacts in Sweden - I mean those who have written to this page - could provide us with information on the background of Axel and his mother - Matilda J, as we know very little about their background. Please write to the same hotmail adr. We don?t know anything about Axels father. Besides some rumors.. We would appreciate information very much, as we are no genealogists. Thank you Elisabet for the printing of the household record!
Thank you and best wishes,
Lars Johansson
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Lars Johansson,
Mathilda Johannesdotter was according to the picture of 26 april 2006 above born 1849 24/1 in Lommaryd parish. When I search the records I find a Matilda born that day in Vittaryd södergård, child of the farmer (but not owner) of that farm, Johan Gust. Carlsson and wife Katarina Israelsdotter.
In the husförhörslängd they appear like this:
(https://forum.rotter.se/discus/messages/2450/88108.jpg)
As you can see Johan Gustav Carlsson was born in Lommaryd - and in 1/10 1802. I find him there as Johannes Gustav, son of Carl Jonsson and wife Ingeborg Månsdotter in Norrby Eriksgård. Both Carl Jonsson and Ingeborg Månsdotter are born in Lommaryd parish (hfl).
I hope this will be a temtation to continue
Regards from,
Olle Elm
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Thank you very much Olle Elm!
It might be a temptation to continue serching..
At least you made my mother happy with these news of her grandmothers background.
With best regards,
Lars
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In Bo's posting above he says: Carl's surname can not be seen here, but according to HFL 1881-1885 page 187 (GID 1078.25.24100) he moved to Solberga(?) 1881-10-05.
How would we go about finding this entry? How would we go about finding him in Solberga?
Are these images on-line or do we have to get to the micro-film?
We would like to find out these answers also, so we can find out what happened to Eva Charlotta and Amanda.
Thanks,
Ralph and Cheryl
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Ralph!
Via a search in the 1890 census ( Karl born 1858 in Bäleryd) I found him working in Norra Solberga parish at the Anneberg match-factory.
Here with wife and two daughters:
(https://forum.rotter.se/discus/messages/2450/88394.jpg)
Olle
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I don't know if this is the best place to ask this question, but it kind of follows from the other questions.
We've been looking through the house-hold examinations on the Genline.com site.
Are there plot maps which show where the individual farms were in the 1800s.
During the 1800s and even into the early 1900s, there were in many of the American states, maps of the counties or townships which showed who owned the property. It doesn't help when somebody was renting the land because it still showed who owned the lans.