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Titel: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2023-01-16, 00:04

The first household record below shows Svea Matilda Johansson (birthdate 1896-10-08) with her mother Matilda Johanna f. Andersson.

The second household record below again shows Svea Matilda with her mother Matilda Andersson and it appears they move to Uppsala in 1927

The third household record below shows a Svea Matilda (Johansson) Djörke in Uppsala with the same birthdate.  Is this the same Svea Matilda in the previous two household records and if so, where does the name "Djörke" come from?

Any assistance most appreciated.

Thank you,
Greg


Folkärna (W) AIIa:3d (1921-1931) Image 1900 / Page 1377 (AID: v183571.b1900.s1377 (http://www.arkivdigital.se/aid/show/v183571.b1900.s1377), NAD: SE/ULA/11247 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/?postid=Arkis+{f2e6c56d-2592-11d4-bbb8-00d0b73e7a8b}&s=Balder))

Avesta (W) AIIa:9 (1921-1938) Image 3990 / Page 385 (AID: v183194.b3990.s385 (http://www.arkivdigital.se/aid/show/v183194.b3990.s385), NAD: SE/ULA/10044 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/?postid=Arkis+{036409fd-0187-11d4-9e66-009027b0fce9}&s=Balder))

Uppsala domkyrkoförsamling (C) AIIaa:36 (1922-1937) Image 340 / Page 1300 (AID: v187088.b340.s1300 (http://www.arkivdigital.se/aid/show/v187088.b340.s1300), NAD: SE/ULA/11632 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/?postid=Arkis+{9446c229-49d8-11d5-a6ed-0002440207bb}&s=Balder))

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Leif Lundkvist skrivet 2023-01-16, 03:16

Yes, it is the same. She took that name in 1936 according to Uppsala domkyrkoförsamling (C) AIIaa:41 (1923-1940) Bild 4060 / sid 3808 (AID: v187093.b4060.s3808, NAD: SE/ULA/11632). But her two brothers took the same name already in 1916 according to Folkärna (W) AIIa:2d (1911-1921) Bild 1080 / sid 999 (AID: v183567.b1080.s999, NAD: SE/ULA/11247). They were probably the only persons that took that name, and I have seen a claim that there are only two now living persons with the name Djörke in Sweden. It could be a made up name (by her brothers) as I have not found anything else with that name in Sweden.

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2023-01-16, 03:31

Thank you, Leif.  As always, your help is very much appreciated.

Greg

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: KG Hammarlund skrivet 2023-01-16, 10:45

Citat från: Leif Lundkvist skrivet 2023-01-16, 03:16

...as I have not found anything else with that name in Sweden.

There might be a connection to the village Djörkhyttan in Hedemora parish (which borders on Folkärna).

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Leif Lundkvist skrivet 2023-01-16, 16:52

Oh yes, there father was born there, Hedemora (W) AIb:4b (1875-1885) Bild 253 / sid 239 (AID: v130406.b253.s239, NAD: SE/ULA/10388). KG, do you know what a djörk is?

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2023-01-16, 19:36

Djörk translated to English is "drunk".  If that is the case, I cannot imagine why anyone would want to add that to their name.

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Jörgen Tollesson skrivet 2023-01-16, 20:35

Where have you seen that translation? "Djörk" is not a Swedish word:

https://svenska.se/tre/?sok=dj%C3%B6rk (https://svenska.se/tre/?sok=dj%C3%B6rk)

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Staffan Bergh skrivet 2023-01-16, 21:21

It's an "AI" -- it has no idea what it is doing, or why, or any real knowledge ...  8)

Titel: SV: Svea Matilda Johansson
Skrivet av: Jörgen Tollesson skrivet 2023-01-16, 22:53

Of course - I should have guessed it was Google "translate"...  :)