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Titel: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-17, 17:18
Could anyone help me understand how best to search for a potential marriage record for Brita Stina, born 19 May 1907 in Nederby.  Brita's parents are Anders Andersson (birth 17 Aug 1775) and Brita Olsdotter (birth 11 September 1776).

Thank you,
Greg Rosenvall
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2021-12-17, 20:03
It seems like she married Anders Larsson in Fogryta Nov 26 1830. See link here:
 
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0000230_00023#?c=&m=&s=&cv=22&xywh=272%2C2551%2C3683%2C2296 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0000230_00023#?c=&m=&s=&cv=22&xywh=272%2C2551%2C3683%2C2296)
 
Her parents were dead and at that moment she was working at Fogryta. Her birthdate has changed a little in the records, as it often did, but I'm pretty sure it's the same person. To verify, check her uncle, Olof Olsson in Finnåker, who is her reference in the birth note. He should be brother to her mother.
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-17, 20:40
Attached are two records that may be this same Olof Olsson.

The first is the marriage record (entry # 21) of Brita Stina's parents (Anders Anderson and Brita Olsdotter) in which Olof Olsson is mentioned in Gillberga.  I believe the Olof Olsson referenced here is Brita Olsdotter's brother?

Also there is a Olof Olsson listed in Gillberga on the attached household record.

Does all of this add up to make the marriage record you shared legitimate?

Thank you,
Greg

https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v53054?image=87&page=84

https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v51106?image=29&page=23
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2021-12-17, 21:13
Yes, it's all correct, he lived in Gillberga first and moved to Finnåker later. So Brita Stinas marriage in 1830 seems to be confirmed.
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-17, 21:54
Thank you.  How does one know from these records that Olof Olsson is a brother to Brita Olsdotter?  Thank you for your patience.  I'm new to this.

Greg
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2021-12-17, 22:29
Because this part:
The first is the marriage record (entry # 21) of Brita Stina's parents (Anders Anderson and Brita Olsdotter) in which Olof Olsson is mentioned in Gillberga.  I believe the Olof Olsson referenced here is Brita Olsdotter's brother?
is confirmed in the very end of the marriage record. It says "Närv. Olof Olsson i Gillberga Brud. Broder." Olof Olsson is the bride's brother.
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-18, 02:22
Thank you, Kalle, much appreciated.

Could you also please translate for me the comment section of the marriage record you referenced (link below) that also mentions Olof Olsson?

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0000230_00023#?c=&m=&s=&cv=22&xywh=970%2C2517%2C2286%2C2362
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2021-12-18, 07:59
Närvarande Olof Olsson
i Finnåker bruden mor-
bror och festoman.
han 22 - hon 23 år
 
Present Olof Olsson
in Finnåker the brides mother-
brother and guardian. 
he 22 - she 23 years
 


Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-18, 14:37
Thank you so much, Kalle.  Very helpful.

Am I correct in saying that the marriage between Brita Stina and Anders Larsson on 26 Nov 1830 took place at Fogryta, Fellingsbro Parish, Örebro County?

Also, how is the best way to find out more (e.g. birth record) of Anders Larsson -- trying to find the household record after their marriage?

Thank you again,
Greg
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2021-12-18, 16:27
The houshold records are probably the best way. You can also try to find the estate inventory made after Brita Stina or Anders died, the children should be noted there
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-18, 16:33
Noted.  Please also confirm location of the marriage.  Am I correct with: Fogryta, Fellingsbro Parish, Örebro County?

Thank you.
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2021-12-18, 17:20
Both bride and groom was from Fogryta so I guess the wedding was hold there
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-18, 17:26
To find more information about Anders Larsson, would I start by looking in the Fogryta household books starting with their marriage year 1830?
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2021-12-18, 17:29
Yes, and also backwards from 1830, to find out his backstory
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-26, 20:17
I want to confirm that I found the correct household record:

https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v51114?image=11

which lists Anders Larsson (born 11 Feb 1808) and Brita Stina Andersdotter (born 18 May 1807), married in 1830.  Children: Anna Stina (born 28 Nov 1831), Cathrina (born 16 Jul 1833) and son Anders (born 11 Dec 1835).

Also want to confirm I found the correct birth record for Anders Larsson (born 11 Feb 1808) entry number 20:

https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v53040?image=227

Thank you,
Greg
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Ulla Lundell skrivet 2021-12-27, 09:56
Hello Greg


All the things that you had listed is correct. At the pages you said I did find the parents and siblings to Anders.Father Lars Andersson born 15 of December 1764 in Medåkra Mother was Britta Larsdotter born 31 of December 1770 in Fellingsbro.
Children Britta born 10 of December 1804 in Fellingsbro
Your Anders born 11 of February 1808 inn Fellingsbro
Stina born in 31 0f August 1815 Felliongsbro


Ulla :-)
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-27, 14:57
Noted and thank you very much.   On the birth record for Anders, there is what I believe to be a "W" written just below the entry number "20".  Is there any significance to this?

Also, on this same birth record for Anders, could you please translate what is written in the "Faddrarne och deras hemvist" and "Omständigheter" columns?

Thank you,
Greg
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Staffan Bergh skrivet 2021-12-27, 15:38
All the fields of Anders' birth notice are translated and explained in the Ulrica thread (https://forum.rotter.se/index.php?topic=182209.msg1604089#msg1604089)
Titel: SV: Brita Stina Marriage
Skrivet av: Greg Rosenvall skrivet 2021-12-27, 16:34
Yes indeed!  Noted and thank you!  I'm catching on slow but sure.

Greg