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Titel: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-25, 21:24
Where do I find records for Soderkoping?  My great-grandaunt, Johanna Johannesdotter (1 May 1839, Aker) moved to Soderkoping in 1864.  I can't find it anywhere.  I did visit there so I know where it is and that there is a wonderful ice cream parlor there.  But I don't know where to go from this attached record at https://sok.riksarkivet.se/[/size]bildvisning[/size]/C0023636_00026
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-25, 21:41
Carol!


I think she never moved to Söderköping or the vicar has written wrong place!
I found her in the city of Norrköping (E)!

Norrköpings S:t Olai (E) AI:58 (1863-1867) Bild 42 / sid 37

Per
Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Jörgen Tollesson skrivet 2021-07-25, 21:42
The town is still called Söderköping, but the parish name was changed to Sankt (S:t) Laurentii (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/kyrkoarkiv?Lan=%C3%96sterg%C3%B6tlands+l%C3%A4n&&Arkiv=SE%2fVALA%2f00322) in 1953. And it's under that name you find the parish records today.
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-25, 22:17
Carol!


You will find Johanna here in Jakob and Johannes in Stockholm together with her son Carl Ernst born 18660120 in Adolf Fredrik (A).
Jakob och Johannes (A, AB) AIb:57 (1874) Bild 148 / sid 287

Carl Ernst is noticed as christened 18660122 with unknown  parents (noticed as ok)
Adolf Fredrik (A, AB) CII:6 (1864-1883) Bild 440

Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-25, 22:35
Carol!


Johanna's son Carl Ernst has the family name Bergvall from about 1880!

He married 18870807 and had at least 5 children.

He died 19390226

Swedish Death Index

18660120

Bergvall, Carl Ernst

Torbjörn Klockares Gata 5-7-9

Dead 2/26/1939.

Registered in Matteus (Stockholms stad, Uppland).

Born 1/20/1866 in Adolf Fredrik (Stockholms stad, Uppland).

Married man (8/7/1887).
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2017:
Matteus, Stockholms stad (Stockholms län, Uppland)

Parish of birth in the records:
Adolf Fredrik (Stockholm)

Source records:
DB, FS (sida: 19361021)

Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-25, 22:58
Carol!


Johanna from the Swedish Death Index
18390501

Johannisdotter, Johanna
Tvätterska (laundress)

Jakobsbergsgatan 33,41A,41B

Dead 3/29/1900.

Registered in Klara (Stockholms stad, Uppland).

Born 5/1/1839 in Åker (Jönköpings län, Småland).

Unmarried woman.
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Corresponding parish(es) as of Jan 1, 2017:
Stockholms domkyrkoförs, Stockholms stad (Stockholms län, Uppland)

Parish of birth in the records:
Åker (Jönköping)

Source records:
Rote 2

Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-25, 23:20
Per & Jörgen,

Thanks for your help.

Carol
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-25, 23:49
Per,


On Carl Ernst's record above there is a notation to the right that says something and includes a notation about Joh Berg ?  Do you know what this means?  And did you find out his wife's name?  Thanks.


Carol
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-25, 23:53
I think I found it.  Her name was Carolina Kristina Magnusson.  Is that what you found?  Carol
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-26, 13:07
Carol!


The family of Clas Ernst Bergvall


 Bergvall, Carl Ernst 1866-01-20
 Bergvall /F Magnusson/,Karoli...1863-01-06
Bergvall, Elisa 1898-04-03
 Bergvall, Karolina Kristina 1900-01-28
Bergvall, Tage 1902-10-19
 Bergvall, Tore 1902-10-19
 Bergvall, Sonja Maria 1904-01-01

Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-26, 14:16
Carol!


The death notice of Johanna in the Klara (A) Deathbook:


Klara (A, AB) FIa:15 (1895-1901) Bild 1600 / sid 154
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-26, 19:15
Per,


Thanks again for all your help.  There is one last sister I haven't been able to find.  Hopefully you can help again.


Anna Stina Johannesdotter, born 12 Nov 1845, in Aker.  I have looked for her everywhere I can think.


Did you get my email via my other address, not the gmail one?


Carol
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-26, 21:00
Per,


Apparently there were more children as I have this record in Norrkopings St Olai.
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-26, 21:51
Carol!


The Bergvall family has moved around to several placeas why I missed the elder children!
What I can see did they get 10 children!


I've got two emails from you, one gmail and one earthlink!


Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-26, 21:59
Per,


Great!  I was hoping my earthlink email went through.  That's the one I use most of the time.  Carol
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-26, 22:34
Carol


Anna Stina moved to Jönköping 1868!
Jönköpings Kristina (F) AI:46 (1866-1873) Bild 461 / sid 456.

From Jönköping she moved 1870 to a place which look like "Nykyrka"! The problem is there are four different  "Nykyrka"!

I can't find her in the Swedish Death Index!

I'll will try tomorrow if not someone else will find her!

Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-26, 23:05
Per,


Thanks.  I'll try to find her.  Carol
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-26, 23:11
Per,


It looks like she left for the US in 1871.  The departure plan is Skaraborg, Nykyrka.  I'll try to find her in the US, but it is difficult if there is no record of where she emigrated to.


Carol



Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Per Pettersson skrivet 2021-07-27, 10:08
Carol!


She is noticed as Anna Kristina Johansdotter at the railwaystation Mullsjö, Nykyrka.
She left the  parish without any relocation cerificate during 1871 and was noticed as moved out 18721120 nr 44.

Did she have any close relatives, who earlier had emigrated? If yes, maybe she went to their place.

Per
Titel: SV: Where to find Soderkoping records
Skrivet av: Carol Kemp skrivet 2021-07-27, 23:04
Per,


Thanks again.  I don't see any close relatives who came over.  I did find a "Ann S Johansdotter", age 26 who left from Liverpool, England, and arrived in Boston, Massachusetts on 27 Nov 1871; but I don't think that is Anna.  It is actually easier to track ancestors in Sweden than it is once they emigrate.


Carol