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Titel: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Lucas Woods skrivet 2020-09-19, 03:45
I am looking for any information on the below individual. I have not been able to find any immigration or emigration records or anything in Sweden for this person. I will post as much as I have.

Name: Anna Sofia Swanburg
Birth: 28 Mar 1863
Death: 4 Dec 1941 Towner County, North Dakota
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152934736/anna-sophia-anderson
Place: Helsing (I am not sure on this but it is the best I got)
Married: Andrew Anderson (he was born in Sweden as well in 1849)
Date: 9 Mar 1883 in St. Paul, Ramsey, Michigan

The only links I have to help narrow down anything in Sweden are below:

Mother: Carrie Swanburg (She was living with the family in the below census)
Born: 1826 (according to her age during the below census)
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7884/images/4449917_00468?pId=184979465
Father: Unknown


Arrival to United States: Anywhere from 1880 - 1882 (this may be slightly wrong as well as multiple censuses showed different arrival dates within the stated window)


Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Leif Lundkvist skrivet 2020-09-19, 05:09
It is probably Anna Sofia Svanberg found in Söderala (X) AIII:2 (1886-1894) Bild 13 / sid 9 (AID: v191158.b13.s9, NAD: SE/HLA/1010201). Her mother Kajsa could be made to Carrie. The family are noted as "moved to Amerika 1881" but without registering that they moved. Anna Sofia was born in Söderhamn, but they moved around a lot. The source I reference to is from ArkivDigital, are you using that? If not, the source information is there too.
Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Lars Eklöf skrivet 2020-09-19, 05:16
Here is Söderala AIII:2, page 9.
Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Maud Mårtensson skrivet 2020-09-19, 10:44
The family left from Malmö July 21, 1881. Destination St Paul, Minnesota. Poliskammaren i Malmö, Utvandrarelistor, SE/MSA/00780/D 3/4 (1881), https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0066679_00114.
Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Lucas Woods skrivet 2020-09-20, 05:29
I do not have ArkivDigital as it costs $45 USD a month to use?

Where else can I pull these records from so I can add them to Ancestry?

Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Kristina Rylander skrivet 2020-09-20, 08:32
Household examination roll, link through ancestry:
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61085&h=211722&tid=&pid=&queryId=2b3b2193afd8073afc6f137e57bfccff&usePUB=true&_phsrc=dTC195&_phstart=successSource


Swedish emigration records, link through ancestry:
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1189&h=484201&tid=&pid=&queryId=8e6b270b629805751203f8532b524407&usePUB=true&_phsrc=dTC201&_phstart=successSource





Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Lucas Woods skrivet 2020-09-20, 22:32
So did the family depart from Sweden from Malmö? or Östanbo, Gävleborg?

One record shows them leaving  Söderala as well?


Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Maud Mårtensson skrivet 2020-09-21, 15:23
I don't have Ancestry so I can't see the records above. But household examinations rolls tell you where people are actually living. Or should do, sometimes they have moved without notifying the clergyman. The passengerlist tell you which port the emigrants sailed from.

In this case the passengerlist states that the Svanberg family's hemort (place of living) is Sandarne in Gävleborg's län (county). Not far from Söderala, so perhaps they had moved without telling.

The ship they were on sailed from Malmö. So the family had to travel through Sweden to get there. Notice that Anna Sofia's brother Olof Leonard August Svanberg and his family left on the same occasion. Some other ports with many Swedish emigrants are Gothenburg, Copenhagen in Denmark and Oslo and Trondheim in Norway.

Söderala and Sandarne on maps. Notice the position regarding Stockholm, https://www.google.com/maps/place/826+61+S%C3%B6derala/@60.9104422,14.7402217,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x466133a4219a0d8f:0x40554a2006830919!8m2!3d61.2821473!4d16.95946 and https://www.google.com/maps/place/820+22+Sandarne/@60.3735271,13.1431926,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x46613352e014cc2f:0xb43ad9691b9359cc!8m2!3d61.2599818!4d17.1472249.

Malmö, https://www.google.com/maps/place/Malm%C3%B6/@58.4880756,11.382394,6z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x465305a574c491ff:0xd3a905dfbd4888e5!8m2!3d55.604981!4d13.003822.

The Svanberg family in Sandarne earlier. Söderhamns kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/HLA/1010202/A I/20 b (1861-1865), https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0032203_00039. The eldest daughter Maja Carolina stayed in Sweden.
Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Lucas Woods skrivet 2020-09-30, 04:20
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0032203_00039

Could i get some help in identifying the birth places for the family?

For Olaf's son: Olaf Leonard August? -- can someone verify I am seeing this right?

I see two Anna Sofia's so did one die while a small child?

Lastly, I see the record mentions where the moved (flyttat) but i can't make out any of the other details

Any help is appreciated!
Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Maud Mårtensson skrivet 2020-09-30, 19:46
Luke,

I hope you know about Riksarkivet where you can find for instance church records for free, https://sok.riksarkivet.se/digitala-forskarsalen. It's possible to chose an English version.

You may have to use special Swedish letters. You find them here, under To write in Swedish, https://www.rotter.se/swedish-roots.

It's also useful to know the difference between Swedish landskap, https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLandskap_i_Sverige&psig=AOvVaw1tFU1VrpqLGe8A8CMthgyd&ust=1601566918545000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCNDige2bkewCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAN and län, https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hhogman.se%2Fkarta-lan-sverige.htm&psig=AOvVaw1tFU1VrpqLGe8A8CMthgyd&ust=1601566918545000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCNDige2bkewCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAR.

The name shall be Olof Leonard Gustaf. Olaf is not a Swedish name. Strangly enough the birth record seems to have the name Olof Linnet Gustaf. Born in Enånger parish, Hälsingland (landskap) but Gävleborg (län). Enångers kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/HLA/1010035/C/4 (1801-1862), https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0030704_00218.

Anna Sofia the older died October 1, 1861 according to the last column (Död) on the left side in the household examinations rolls. Born in Enånger. Enångers kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/HLA/1010035/C/4 (1801-1862), https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0030704_00232.

Anna Sofia the younger and her sister Klara Mathilda were not born in Enånger but Söderhamn parish, Hälsingland. Söderhamns kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/HLA/1010202/C I/4 (1858-1867), https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0032237_00047 and https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0032237_00078.

The parents were both born in Värmland (landskap) and Värmland (län, nowadays).

Olof Gustaf Svanberg in Varnum parish. Kristinehamns kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/VA/13289/C I/6 (1811-1836), https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0037971_00230.

And so was the eldest child, baptized Maria Carolina. Her father was still called Jansson in the birth record (Svanberg was most likely his soldier's name). Kristinehamns kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/VA/13289/C I/8 (1837-1860), https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0037972_00248.

Kajsa Ersdotter was born in Östmark parish according to the household examinations rolls. But only birth year is given, 1827, not an exact birth date.
Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Maud Mårtensson skrivet 2020-10-03, 09:57
Of course the name is Olof Leonard August, not Olof Leonard Gustaf. :-[
Titel: SV: Seeking information/help Anna Sofia Swanburg (1863-1941)
Skrivet av: Lucas Woods skrivet 2020-10-10, 17:58
I did not know Riksarkivet had an english version. thank you so much!