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Titel: Need help with 1733 marriage record
Skrivet av: Victoria Cihla skrivet 2020-07-18, 21:08

Attached is copy of 1733 marriage record in Torpa.  Can anyone confirm what I think it says so far and fill in the question marks?

https://app.arkivdigital.se/volume/v30192?image=100

On 4th day of ? were married young man Johan Nilsson ?? and Svenborg Månsdotter of Balkeryd.

Thanks very much for any help with this,

Vicki Cihla

Titel: SV: Need help with 1733 marriage record
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2020-07-18, 21:40

On 4th day of Easter were the farmhand Johan Nilsson from Wänneböke married with the maid Swenborg Månsdotter from Balkeryd.

Vänneböke, Hinneryd parish.

Titel: SV: Need help with 1733 marriage record
Skrivet av: Victoria Cihla skrivet 2020-07-18, 21:57

Thank you so much! 

The word they are using for Easter is påsk, correct?  It was hard for me to read it.

I have not seen the place name Wänneböke before so that is very interesting.

One thing I'm still confused on with the marriage records - when you see dr and pigan should I always understand it to mean their positions?: farmhand and maid (as servants) instead of young man and young woman (maiden vs. maid)?

I appreciate your name expertise!

Thanks a lot,

Vicki Cihla

Titel: SV: Need help with 1733 marriage record
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2020-07-18, 22:17

Den 4 dag Påsk wigdes d^r Johan Nilsson i wänneboke med p: Swenborg Måns dotter I Balkeryd.

The question of the meaning of the words dräng and piga has been discussed earlier here at the forum. Dräng and piga can be used as boy and girl but i believe this is more used in Skåne and around as you are able to see in those birth records. As the young people often worked as famhands and maids maybe the distinction between the meanings can be hard to determine, but where I have come across marriage couples I have seen them as farmhands and maids. An argument is that they are not boys and girls when they marry. Of course, I'm not always right...

Titel: SV: Need help with 1733 marriage record
Skrivet av: Victoria Cihla skrivet 2020-07-18, 22:22

Thanks for this explanation!  I thought that was the case but have never been quite sure.

I appreciate your help,

Vicki Cihla

Titel: SV: Need help with 1733 marriage record
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2020-07-26, 01:46

Another answer at this forum from yesterday worth to be cited:

Citat från: Eva Dalin skrivet 2020-07-25, 18:24

En ogift man kallades dräng och en ogift kvinna kallades piga.
Dessa ogifta personer, som kan vara syskon till föräldrarna, vänner eller grannar,  är dopvittnen.
De behöver inte alls vara den anställde drängen eller pigan på gården.

An unmarried man was called a dräng and an unmarried woman was called piga.

Titel: SV: Need help with 1733 marriage record
Skrivet av: Victoria Cihla skrivet 2020-07-26, 02:02

That is a great explanation!

Thanks for passing it on to me,

Vicki Cihla