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Särskilda ämnen & övrigt => Skåne => Läshjälp => Färlöv => Ämnet startat av: Heidi Aeschbacher skrivet 2019-05-19, 21:36

Titel: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Heidi Aeschbacher skrivet 2019-05-19, 21:36
I wanted to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the father's father's name somehow.
The church record books in the Parish of Färlöv  are missing from I think 1704 to 1760 not quite sure so I cannot find any further information.
I have the birth record of the child and I have the marriage record of the father, but I am trying desparately to find information from these two records about the father's parents. And the mother's birth place from the marriage record.

This is what I was able to decipher (I think) myself.
Birth record:
1769 6. February
Kristinstads Lan
Lasse Bengtson - Kerstina Torkelsdotter - Färlöv
Baptized ---- Name OLA Elna Hansdotter? from Färlöf
Witness Nils Olsson Simon Jönsson -alena Lassedotter from Färlöf young woman
---------------- dotter from Bjierlöv.

Marriage record:
Lasse Bengtson from Färlöv Kirstina Torkelsdotter from ?

That is all I can make out ....can you help me?
Thank you Heidi

 
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2019-05-19, 22:04
"Avkunnas till thet heliga äktenskapsståndet 1sta 2dra 3dje gången för drängen ärliga och beskiedelige Lasse Bengtsson från Färlöf, med pigan ärliga och gudfruktiga Kierstina Torkelsdotter där sammastädes."
The marriage record doesn't really say anything of value, other than that they were both from Färlöv.
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2019-05-19, 22:16
Birth record:
d. 6 febr. f. Laße Bengtßon och Kerstina? Torkels dr i Färl? son som döptes Dca Invocavit (12 febr.)
The name of the son is Ola.
Elna Hansdotter carried the child. (b. b.)
Witnesses:  Nils Olsson, Simon Jönsson, Malena Lars dr (Larsdotter), i församlingen och Pigan Bengta Hans dr i Bierlöf.
The Parish of Färlöv 1769 belonged to Kristianstads län.
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Heidi Aeschbacher skrivet 2019-05-19, 22:23
Thank you so much for the quick response :) ...now I know a few more names and I can try to investigate from there.
Heidi
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Heidi Aeschbacher skrivet 2019-05-19, 22:24
 :) And thank you for the information on the marriage record, I guess the parents did not need to be present!
Heidi
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2019-05-19, 22:28
They should have been.  :)
Regards, Anti
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2019-05-19, 22:51
Do you know the birth year for Lasse and Kerstina? If not, you have them here, as well as the death date for Lasse:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0059541_00037#?c=&m=&s=&cv=36&xywh=-729%2C-173%2C6973%2C3306 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0059541_00037#?c=&m=&s=&cv=36&xywh=-729%2C-173%2C6973%2C3306)

Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Heidi Aeschbacher skrivet 2019-05-31, 18:22
Wow you are fantastic!! Thank you so much for the Link!  :)  But some of the things are really hard for me to read.  :-\
Is the last column on each page the death date or the moving out date?
I also wondered what the plus and minuses next to the names mean?
Because of your help I was also able to find an entry on page 54 for two of the sons of Lasse Bengtsson.
Their names are Hakan Lasson and Nils Lasson but I am not able to read the heading above Hakans family and the very light ink writing from the entry of Pernilla Hakans daughter born in 1799 until the entry of Nils Lasson's family.
Could you please help me?
Heidelberrie
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Heidi Aeschbacher skrivet 2019-05-31, 20:49
here is page 54
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Kalle Birgersson skrivet 2019-05-31, 21:24
The last column seems to be for a mix of different notes, but in this case it's the date for Lasse's death - confirmed by the death record book:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0059561_00191#?c=&m=&s=&cv=190&xywh=-713%2C2305%2C5824%2C3191 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0059561_00191#?c=&m=&s=&cv=190&xywh=-713%2C2305%2C5824%2C3191)
Plus and minus is, I think, how the person performed in the religious exam. After all that is what this book is for, keeping record of peoples divine knowledge.
The heading over Håkans family read "Ett nytt hus wid Björke Kulls grindar, Barnahuset" -  a new house at Birch hills gates, Barna house. It also says Barnaholm, I guess that's the farm on which land this new house was built.
The lines after Pernilla is:
D. Bengta F. 5/1 89 ?? fr(om). Åsum -13
?? Hanna O. ä s. Ola F. 1/5 1814 ? ofvan (above)
O.ä. D. Hanna F. 11/7 16
Hanna??
Marna Nilsd. O.ä. Anders F. 13/10 -16 fostras av...? (raised by ?)
inh. pigan Pernilla Arfvidsd. Slättåkra ?/10 1770
O.ä is oäkta, born out of wedlock
Titel: SV: Finding the father of the father in a birth recordI hope this is the right place to ask for help to read a birth record to see if I can find out the f
Skrivet av: Heidi Aeschbacher skrivet 2019-05-31, 23:43
Once again thank you so much!!  :) I never would have gotten that! I will look through the rest of the book to see if I can find anymore information about Lasse Bengtsson's parents.
You have really helped me!
 :)