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Titel: Help with a household exam
Skrivet av: Bradley Bystrom skrivet 2019-05-08, 19:50

I am seeking help with the notes on the household exam for Johanna Sophia Dalberg (Dahlberg) on Viksjö AI 4 page 76 (attached). I can read (but correct me if I am wrong) that she arrived from Ljustorp in 1836 and that she was born in Stockholm. Date of birth is listed as 18/11 1810 (questionable). Her illegitimate daughter Carin is with her; born Stigsjö 10/11 1839. I cannot translate the notes on the far right of the page, any help would be greatly appreciated.


Regarding her date of birth, the earliest record I can find for his is from Ljustorp AI 3 page 56 (attached). Here it lists her date of birth as 4/11 of 1810. I wonder if there was confusion with the Johanna born 18/10 1810 who is listed just above her. Thoughts? Also, what occupation is she listed as? It is not piga, is that due to her age (as she would have only been 12 years old in 1822 which is the date I believe the records starts at for her on this page). Any help would be greatly appreciated regarding this matter. How does a 12 year old girl get from Stockholm to Ljustorp? A mystery indeed.
Titel: SV: Help with a household exam
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2019-05-08, 22:53
Ok, I need some foreign language training.

Viksjö AI 4 page 76
I believe the date of birth is listed as 16/11 1810.
My reading and translation of the text to the far right may be incorrect:
[a sign of an odious behaviour (unsure of the correct translation)] och är så vanartad att hon ifrån socknen olofligen afvikit.
and is so disgraceful that she without permission have deviated from the parish.

Ljustorp AI 3 page 56
Wrong dates usually arises in the transferring process between books and sometimes when an individual is replaced by another at the same row.
She is  a "barnhusflicka" or a child from an orphanage.
Children traveled with their family or a familiar person, e.g. a relative, seldom alone, I suppose.

Regards, Anti
Titel: SV: Help with a household exam
Skrivet av: Bradley Bystrom skrivet 2019-05-09, 02:40
Thank you Anti, I truly appreciate your help. An orphan explains how she got from Stockholm in the south to Ljustorp up in Västernorrland. And the translation sheds light on her behavior. She might have come from Allmänna Barnhus in Stockholm. I found some articles on it online.
Titel: SV: Help with a household exam
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2019-05-09, 12:31
The previous book of Ljustorp may confirm the date of birth.
Ljustorps kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörsböcker, SE/HLA/1010115/A I/2 (1812-1821), bildid: C0033122_00048 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0033122_00048), sida 44
Titel: SV: Help with a household exam
Skrivet av: Bradley Bystrom skrivet 2019-05-09, 19:33
Thanks again Anti. This record does have her correct date of birth as 04 Nov 1810. With your help I located her record from Allmänna Barnhus in Stockholm and her correct date of birth is 04 Nov 1810. I will post the record in a separate posting. Thanks!
Titel: SV: Help with a household exam
Skrivet av: Anti Poika skrivet 2019-05-09, 19:36
 :)