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Särskilda ämnen & övrigt => Discussions in English => Swedish names => Ämnet startat av: Luke Ronlund skrivet 2019-03-25, 15:26
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Is it possible for a family to have two children with one named "Georg" and another named "Göran"? (born approximately 13 years apart).
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Yes, it is possible. Georg, Göran, Örjan, Jörgen, Jürgen have the same origin (the Greek name Georgios). Most Swedes did not know that (and still don’t).
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I'm trying to be objective in looking from the beginning..... 8) So, with this birth record, does it look like twins Georg and Christina?
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Yes, it does.
In the register of births in Kristinehamn it says the same:
Kristinehamn FbReg:2 (1645-1860) Bild 45 / sid 75 (AID: v188649.b45.s75, NAD: SE/VA/13289)
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thank you kristina1 I no longer have access to the original archive record where I found my record. From your record, does the date appear to be 11 May 1709 with the "14" date possibly being baptism of either one or both of the twins?
My apologies but I am Engish speaking and my family research involves documents often in Swedish, and often in English, and more often during periods when my busy family life only allows. So my memory of terms in Finn and Swedish language as well as the location of various Archive records is a battle. :) My notes are too detailed that I have too many and often can't find my way back to sources. :)
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Krinstina1 with the record you mention "Kristinehamn FbReg:2 (1645-1860) Bild 45 / sid 75 (AID: v188649.b45.s75, NAD: SE/VA/13289)", what would be my best way to find that record (and then I can save the website as my primary resource for future searching)?
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Hi!
A short addition to your initial question.
Not saying that this was the case for your Göran and Georg, but an alternative explanation to the birth of two (or more) children with the same or similar names could be that the first child had died. In my experience it seems to have been quite common that a child got the same name as a deceased sibling.
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Hi "bornemann". Absolutely. It is for that reason which I asked the question as the 1709 birth record for the first (and eldest) is written as "Georg".... while there is also another birth record in 1722 for a Göran (though I need to check how the original record is written). So far, I have not been able to find any death record for the first "Georg" so I'm leaving all options open at the moment. :)
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A register is not a primary source. The primary source for the birth of Georg and Christina, 1709 May 11, baptism 14, is the birth record as shown in your picture. Here is a link to the picture in Riksarkivet:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0037967_00110
And here is the correct source reference:
Kristinehamns kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/VA/13289/C I/2 (1701-1712), sida 193
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Thank you very much for that picture and reference kristina1. What I need to work out now, is whether the George mentioned, lived on or if he died (definitively).
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Well, it's definitely Göran for the birth 1722:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0037968_00122 (https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0037968_00122)
but since the death records for Kristinehamn don't seem to start until 1738 and the clerical surveys don't look very helpful either, it might be tricky to find a death date for Georg... Good luck either way :-)
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Jens