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Geografiskt relaterat => ARKIV - USA => USA => Länder => ÖVERFLYTTAT - Efterlysningar fr Disc. in English/Emigrants => Ämnet startat av: dave skrivet 2002-08-24, 17:31
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Please do a lookup for Clara Walbert.
Born 5 Jun 1874 in Sweden
Immigrated 1890
Sisters and Mother who may have come over
with her. All lived in Chicago.
Augusta born 1870
Wihelmina born 1866
Marie(Mary) Mother
Any information on this family would be great.
Thanks Dave
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I've not been able to locate her on the CD in 1890 as the name Walbert probably was taken in the US. However, she is found on a trip to Sweden in 1909. See a related question here Anbytarforum: Discussions in English: Emigrants: Walbert, Andrew John (http://forum.genealogi.se/index.php?topic=79681) which looks likely to be her family - if she later marries to be Mrs C Veleta.
Kind regards,
Eva
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Since Feb I was able to find more information on Clara and her mother Maria.
Maria name was Maja Lisa Johannesdotter b 2 Apr 1833 in Jarn, Grinstad.
She was married to to Lars Andersson 8 Nov 1857.
Lar died in 1875.
Can you please retry. Also, why the name change to Walbert?
Thanks Dave dave@henley.ws
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Dave
In the comments following the question which Eva points at, Rustan Gandvik has given the answer. I quote And finally, their mother looks to be the Maria Lisa Johannesson, 57y from Grinstad who left Gothenburg 1890 Nov 21 with ticket to New York. Maria, a daughter 16y accompanied her. This could be Clara.
This is from CD emigranten (Source code 43:605:6949)
I think you can find a lot of answers in the above mentioned comments
Happy reading
Mats
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Looking for my Great aunts Emma Charlotta born in Naglum October 15, 1863 She moved to Gothenburg and she lived at Spannmålsgatan 7/Torggatan 10 in Gothenburg. 1892 she moved to Masthugget in Gothenburg. when and where did she die, have a family,or emmigrate.
Looking for my Great aunt Maria Kristina b.1873-03-26 She was nicknamed Mia born: Trollhättan Naglum County When and where did she live, die, have a family or Emigrate.
Thank you for your help.
ERick Olofsson
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Emma Charlotta looks like this in 1890:
Gustafsdotter, Emma Charlotta
f.d. piga [former maid]
f. 1863 i Naglum (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
Ogift kvinna, ensam i familjen [unmarried woman, alone]
2:a Roten 61 62 & 64
Göteborgs domkyrkoförs (Göteborgs och Bohus län, Västergötland)
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Not found in Swedish Census 1900.
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Maria Kristina (or Maria Christina) born 1873 in Naglum not found in 1890 or 1900.
But there is a Maria Kristina born in Trollhättan, she looks like this in 1890:
Nilsson, Gustaf
arb [worker]
f. 1840 i Naglum (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
Gift man, far i familjen [married man, father]
Andersd:r, Anna Stina
f. 1836 i Naglum (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
h. [wife]
Gift kvinna, mor i familjen [married woman, mother]
Frans Oskar
f. 1867 i Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
S
Ogift man, barn i familjen [unmarried man, child]
Maria Kristina
f. 1873 i Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
D
Ogift kvinna, barn i familjen [unmarried woman, child]
Augusta Emilia
f. 1878 i Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
D
Flicka, barn i familjen [girl, child]
Mossen 6:te Qvarteret
Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
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Not found in 1900
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So perhaps both emigrated. EMIBAS any-one?
// Bo Johansson
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Perhaps this is Maria Kristina's emigration, from the Emigranten 2001 CD:
Name: MARIA GUSTAFSSON
Age: 24
Parish: TROLLHÄTTAN
County: P (Älvsborg)
Port: GÖTEBORG
Date: 1897-10-22
Destination: NEW YORK
Fellows: NEJ (Alone)
Source code: 60:545:2802
Or some other Maria...
// Bo Johansson
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Maria Kristina in the HFL, GID 2697.5.6100, [Älvsborg] Trollhättan, AI.8, Household examination, 1891-1894, page 132, Image 61.
Placename: Stafvereds Mosse, Qvarteret 6, No. 3
-owner Gustaf Nilsson, born 1840-03-20 Naglum.
- Anna Stina Andersdotter, born 1836-01-31 Naglum.
- s. Frans Oskar, born 1867-12-27 Trollhättan.
- d. Maria Kristina, born 1873-03-26 Trollhättan.
- d. Augusta Emilia, born 1878-11-24 Trollhättan.
And the family in 1900, Maria Kristina not found:
Nilsson, Gustaf
Trämassearbetare [wood pulp worker]
b. 1840 in Vassända-Naglum (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
Man, married, father
Andersdotter, Anna Stina
b. 1836 in Vassända-Naglum (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
h. [wife]
Woman, married, mother
Frans Oskar
b. 1867 in Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
s.
Man, single, child
Augusta Emilia
b. 1878 in Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
d.
Girl, child
Karl Oskar
b. 1882 in Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
Fosterson
Boy, child
Emil
b. 1885 in Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
Fosterson
Boy, child
Stafvereds Mosse 2-1
Trollhättan (Älvsborgs län, Västergötland)
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// Bo Johansson
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Can tou tell me the Father, mother and family of Gustaf Nilson below.
Placename: Stafvereds Mosse, Qvarteret 6, No. 3
-owner ß{Gustaf Nilsson}, born 1840-03-20 Naglum.
I see Frans Gustafson his son Emigrating to Chicago, USA via Liverpool & Queenstown on 4/11/1892 and with him was an Olivia Nilsson age 39. if that is any help in finding this family of mine.
Thank you Again
ERICK
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The Naglum births 1838-1842 is in Vänersborg C:4, see the volume index in GID 1926.7.27600, [Älvsborg] Naglum, C.2, Births, 1701-1743, Image 3.
Unfortunately, there is no Gustaf with father Nils born 20 Mar 1840 in Naglum, GID 735.13.13000, [Älvsborg] Vänersborg, C.4, Births, 1838-1860, page 464, Image 130.
So the birth info for Gustaf Nilsson seems to be in error.
The census 1900 has his birthplace as Vassända-Naglum, but he is not in the Vassända birth Mar 1840 either (GID 735.13.11700).
So try tracing him backwards, in the previous HFL he is recorded with birth-date 21 Sep 1840, and with more children including Emma Charlotta born 15 Oct 1863. GID 2697.7.10500, [Älvsborg] Trollhättan, AI.5, Household examination, 1884-1890, page 110, Image 105.
And there is a Gustaf born 21 Sep 1840 in Naglum, parents torpare Nils larsson at Sanna and wife Crist. Jansdotter age 40, GID 735.13.13100, [Älvsborg] Vänersborg, C.4, Births, 1838-1860, 466, Image 131.
The family is at the torp Sanna under Forsered in GID 1926.2.9400, [Älvsborg] Naglum, AI.6, Household examination, 1840-1845, page 198, Image 94.
Also in the next HFL GID 1926.5.111900, [Älvsborg] Naglum, AI.9, Household examination, 1846-1856, page 213, Image 117.
- Nils Larsson, born 1792 Gudhem.
- wife Maja Stina Jansdotter, born 1800 Björned/Vassända(?).
- 6 children born 1822-1840.
// Bo Johansson
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BTW, the son Frans Oskar born 1867-12-27 Trollhättan is recorded with his parents in the census 1900.
He is also with his parents in the 1890-1894 HFL HFL, GID 2697.5.6100, [Älvsborg] Trollhättan, AI.8, Household examination, 1891-1894, page 132, Image 61.
So perhaps it is a different Frans Gustafsson that you have found.
// Bo Johansson
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Can You give me Nils Larson parents from the following record you gave me.
- Nils Larsson, born 1792 Gudhem.
And also Maja Stina Jansdotter's Parents and family this this record.
- wife Maja Stina Jansdotter, born 1800 Björned/Vassända.
- 6 children born 1822-1840.
Gustaf born 21 Sep 1840 in Naglum, parents torpare Nils larsson at Sanna and wife Crist. Jansdotter age 40, GID 735.13.13100, [Älvsborg] Vänersborg, C.4, Births, 1838-1860, 466, Image 131.
The family is at the torp Sanna under Forsered in GID 1926.2.9400, [Älvsborg] Naglum, AI.6, Household examination, 1840-1845, page 198, Image 94.
Also in the next HFL GID 1926.5.111900, [Älvsborg] Naglum, AI.9, Household examination, 1846-1856, page 213, Image 117.
- Nils Larsson, born 1792 Gudhem.
- wife Maja Stina Jansdotter, born 1800 Björned/Vassända(?).
- 6 children born 1822-1840.
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There is no Nils born 1792 in GID 556.7.20200, [Skaraborg] Gudhem, C.2, Births,Deaths, 1767-1836, page 80, Image 47.
So there is some error in birth-year and/or birth-place.
You will have to follow Nils Larsson backwards in the household records, to see where and when he was born.
// Bo Johansson
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Bo, Thanks for all of your digging.
Could you send me the information on this family And there is a Gustaf born 21 Sep 1840 in Naglum, parents torpare Nils larsson at Sanna and wife Crist. Jansdotter age 40, GID 735.13.13100, [Älvsborg] Vänersborg, C.4, Births, 1838-1860, 466, Image 131.
The family is at the torp Sanna under Forsered in GID 1926.2.9400, [Älvsborg] Naglum, AI.6, Household examination, 1840-1845, page 198, Image 94.
Erick
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The family is at the torp Sanna under Forsered in GID 1926.2.9400, [Älvsborg] Naglum, AI.6, Household examination, 1840-1845, page 198, Image 94.
- torpare Nils Larsson, born 1792 Gudhem.
- wife Maja Stina Jansdotter, born 1800 Björned(?).
- d. Johanna, born 1829-09-29 Naglum.
- s. Johannes, born 1834-10-28 Naglum.
- s. Sven, born 1836-12-19 Naglum.
- s. Gustaf, born 1840-09-21 Naglum.
- s. Andreas, born 1825-02-06 Naglum, came 1842 from Thorse.(?), moved 1844 to Tunhem.
- s. Lars, born 1822-12-18 Naglum.
Also in the next HFL GID 1926.5.111900, [Älvsborg] Naglum, AI.9, Household examination, 1846-1856, page 213, Image 117.
- torpare Nils Larsson, born 1792 Gudhem.
- wife Maja Stina Jansdotter, born 1800 Vassända(?).
- d. Johanna, born 1829-09-29 Naglum.
- s. Johannes, born 1834-10-28 Naglum.
- s. Sven, born 1836-12-19 Naglum.
- s. Gustaf, born 1840-09-21 Naglum.
- s. Lars, born 1822-12-18 Naglum.
They move to Bp 18, A216, which means page 216, the torp Källebo under Forsered (GID 1926.5.112100).
// Bo Johansson
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Thank you so much. You really are a detective in fact. You must have trained in scottland Yards.
Thanks again ERICK
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Now that we have all of this information torpare Nils Larsson, born 1792 Gudhem. - wife Maja Stina Jansdotter, born 1800 Björned(?) Vassända(?). and when They move to Bp 18, A216, which means page 216, the torp Källebo under Forsered (GID 1926.5.112100).
Can we determine who their parents where?
Can I also ask of the whereabouts and families of their children:
d. Johanna, born 1829-09-29 Naglum.
- s. Johannes, born 1834-10-28 Naglum.
- s. Sven, born 1836-12-19 Naglum.
- s. Gustaf, born 1840-09-21 Naglum.
- s. Andreas, born 1825-02-06 Naglum, came 1842 from Thorse.(?), moved 1844 to Tunhem.
- s. Lars, born 1822-12-18 Naglum.
Whatever you can do for me is most appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Erick